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Wrecker
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 05:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone know how much trouble it would be to put a 99 X1 engine into a 98 S1 roller?
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Phat_j
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 06:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just like putting an s1 engin back in there.. no trouble at all
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Wrecker
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 05:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks.
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Classicbuells
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you're going to use the S1 ignition system, you need to change the ignition timing rotor for the S1 type from the X1 type, IIRC.
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Dblast
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You will also need to plug or plate over speed sensor hole in case, and route trans vent hose up subframe.
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Dblast
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a picture of my 96 S1 that I installed my black 01 X1 engine in. I also used the swingarm,shock and brakes.

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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You could just leve the speed sensor in there and not use it, right?
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Dblast
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can leave it in. I used a block off plate from a big twin trans. I used the wire harness and neutral light switch from the S1.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I built one last winter, drops right in.
Same cases, different internals...

Brad
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Wile_ecoyote
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Love that color Dblast! Looks kinda easterish. Cool
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

very pastel
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Dblast
Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I painted it blue to go with my red & white !

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Dblast
Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The S1 is actually light blue, that first picture has bad lighting. The sun was going down.
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Wrecker
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Valuable info guys. I really appreciate the chiming in.
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Wrecker
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dblast, Did you keep it fuel injected (with an earlier Cyclone tank) or go with a carb?
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

looks carbed to me
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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, you can see the diaphragm/spring cover on top of the carb....

Chase
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Dblast
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used the S1 carb and manifold, ignition and two inch header with a Vance&Hines. The engine has 1250 kit, 536 cams, and porting. It made 106hp and 85ft.lbs at the rear wheel on a Dynojet dyno when in the X1. With the carburetor and two inch header it feels stronger down low, butt might have lost some hp on the top. I want to have it on the dyno again to see what happened.
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Buellfighter
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, that's a nice set-o-rides.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When putting an X1 motor in an old tuber frame, make sure you change out the timing cup.
The X1 is set up for single fire, the stock tuber motors don't like that much.
The wiring harness and coils aren't set up for it.
Bike will run like crap. Don't ask how I know.

Brad
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

there is an m2 wire harness for sale on craigslist in mpls.
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