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Grovskopa
| Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 04:35 am: |
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I have Vance and Hines now, they sound OK and I guess effect wise they are OK as well.. But I am open for suggestions =) I'd really like a more metallic and gritty sound (I used to be a Ducatista) Ad of course I would also love some more rwhp! |
Phat_j
| Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 06:54 am: |
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D&D (Message edited by phat j on March 29, 2008) |
Grovskopa
| Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 07:05 am: |
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What is D&D? Url or anything? |
Dave_02_1200
| Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 09:38 am: |
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The Buell Race Header and Race Muffler sound great and make good power. I have that set up on both my 2001 S3T and the 2002 M2. I think the motor on my S3T is similar to your X1 (heads, cams, etc.)and I am really happy with it. Also, if you have not already done so, you should consider a Race ECM or remapping with ECM SPY. That said, I have seen V&H and D&D on stock headers and they sounded really nice. My non-scientific comparison and comments: Race Muffler: deep low bass sound, moderately loud V&H slip-on: bass sound but a bit higher and softer than Race Muffler, moderately loud, but less than Race Muffler D&D slip-on: deep low bass sound with a sharp "bite", louder than both V&H and Buell Race Muffler with a "crackle". Race Muffler: best for performance. V&H: best compromise between performance and friendly neighbor relations D&D: very good performance and strong construction, to hell with the neighbors All three can be good choices, depending on your priorities. Good Luck, Dave |
Grovskopa
| Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 09:57 am: |
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Great post Dave! =) I have the stock ECM.. Heard bad things about Power Commander so did not bother. What is the Race ECM? Can you give me a link? |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 11:06 am: |
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They dont Make the Race ECM anymore... earch for it on Ebay, or keep an eye here. If you are good elecronically, and you have a PDA(Palm Pilot), you can reflash YOUR ECM with a Race program via ECM Spy... Now... my recommendation for a Pipe? D&D Full... perfect. and, if you can, have it ceramic coated inside and out before it even gets to you. I have used the stock header with a D&D and a Race Header with a D&D.... Even with the Race header, apparently there was a small flat spot or dip still that I didnt noticed until I put the D&D system on... its PULLED from just off idle till it smacked it the rev l/imiter...no hesitation, etc... That said, I have used the Force pipe myself, so... BUT, I have had that D*D on there for 2+ years... whacked in on a curb(dont ask), hell, all kinds of stuff... its tough as nails... Chase |
Grovskopa
| Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 11:17 am: |
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D&D then =) Is it full with pipes and all or just end part (the tube below motor) |
Chasespeed
| Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 11:31 am: |
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The particular one I hold in high regard.. is a complete system. 2 head pipes, a H-Y pipe(yes, it has a H section, then goes into the Y pipe) and then a muffler. There ya go...http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/6171.html Chase |
Grovskopa
| Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 12:12 pm: |
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Meaty! And the price is rather cheap! And they also got ECM Race =D |
Mastros2
| Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 10:18 pm: |
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D&D. It sounds great and much better midrange as well! |
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