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Freeflyer
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys I have a bottle of nickle high temp antiseize that I usually use but when I was putting together a Supertrapp it said to use copper antiseize, is there anything special about copper? The nickel says its good for high temps and exhaust.
I dont think it matters just trying to figure out whats the diff.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had bad luck with that copper stuff.
Both times I used it, it seemed to harden up somehow.
I've had better luck with plain old high-temp grease.
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Zenfrogmaster
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used copper on my Supertrapp because that's what it asked for and I had some. Much later, it came apart easily to add discs. No experience with the nickel stuff in that application, but why risk it? Can't be much more than $5 for a tube / stick, and it's easy to find.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I remember correctly, one is used for steel to steel, the other for steel to alloy.
Damn, now I have to look it up...
Hang on...
This is from the Permatex site:

Copper:
Permatex® Copper Anti-Seize Lubricant

A premium quality copper anti-seize and thread lubricant that may be used to prevent seizing, corrosion and galling where high temperature conditions exist. Contains a high percentage of micro-fine copper flakes in a semi-synthetic grease carrier and is fortified with high quality rust and corrosion inhibitors. Temperature range: -30°F to 1800°F (-34°C to 982°C). Provides good electrical conductivity. Meets Mil Spec #907E.

Suggested Applications: Spark plug threads installed in aluminum, exhaust manifold bolts, engine bolts, oxygen sensors, knock sensors, thermostat housing bolts, fuel filter fittings, and battery cable connections

Nickle:
Protects metal parts from seizing and galling at temperatures up to 2400°F (1316°C). Copper-free, use under conditions of extreme pressure and temperature, and with stainless steel, titanium and nickel alloys.

Suggested Applications: Exhaust manifold bolts, exhaust system bolts, muffler clamps and tailpipe assemblies

Sounds like the copper one is sufficient.

Brad
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Mikef5000
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Auto School teaches that copper is the best for general use.
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Jos51700
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I never knew there was difference! I've always used silver, and it's better than nothing! Now I gotta buy more....

Thank you for doing the research!
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In the nifty goo department, they make never-sieze in a crayon for spark plugs.
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