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Nlegrett
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is everyone running as far as discs and end piece on your supertrapp. I have a 99X1 with a forcewinder, race ecm, and supertrapp. I for some reason like loud, like vance and hines loud. Should I add a bunch of discs and get the open end piece OR take the discs out and the open end piece out and run it comepletly open (I am thinking that would be similar to the V+H that I like). Hope that is not too confusing.
Thanks
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Jayvee
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want as quiet as possible. So right now
I have 12 with the turnout tip.

I would like to take a bunch out to make it quieter, but according to the old FUELL magazine dyno test, 11 discs performs worse than the stock muffler. 12 is slightly better than stock muffler according to the Dyno run Aaron Wilson posted here.
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Nlegrett
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jayvee - are you running with the open end piece or the closed one, with the turnout tip on?
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Sleez
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i run 21 discs with the open end cap, opened up on the lathe even more!

works great in the ids or standard. at least for me!
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Sleez
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

see here;

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/273574.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/293495.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/291436.html
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Jayvee
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess it's called closed end, there's a 3" exit tube that sticks out at a 45 degree angle.

Also have a Force clone and Dyna2000 ignition by the way.

If you like loud, proceed directly to 20 discs and jet for that.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i did what sleez told me to do and even the way it was set for the force pipe it still ran great. checked the plugs and they were burning great.
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Brokeneck
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the Supertrapp on my 2000 T-bolt -- according to my Dyno runs, run as many discs as you can afford -- and run the turn out endcap on the IDS model -- NRHS site has a good article on this --
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Warlizard
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

24 discs seems to give optimal HP/Torque along w/ plenty of sound. Use the race cap for a few more decibels.
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Nlegrett
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds good - I am thinking about 20 discs with the race open end cap cut out another 1/4" with the turnout end piece. Question is if I use 20 discs, will I need a longer screw?
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Werewulf
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is the supertrapp as loud as the D&D?
who has the best prices on mufflers these days? i had the supertrapp on my z-1 and it was nice... i had the factory race system on my first M-2 and it ran better than my x-1..
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Nlegrett
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would have to say that the D+D is louder than the supertrapp. I heard that the force pipe is also pretty loud. All of these pipes though are loud in there own way.
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Sleez
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

in the decibel tests i did a few years ago, the open endcap supertrapp was just as loud as the KT, which was considered the loudest by far. the sound was tinnier and more straight pipe sounding from the KT, cuz that's what it was! tested in temecula, my S3 against Big Js M2 IIRC. all others were lower by 5-10 db.
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Brokeneck
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Been a while since I disk-ed mine, but I seem to remember that 14 discs was the maximum with the stock screws -- I remember buyin' a kit that came with additional discs and longer screws-- was a little pricey --
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 06:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well worth the investment IMO along with the open end cap(for race use only) wink wink.
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Warlizard
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You will need the "race" screws to add more than 14 discs. I believe the longer screws can hold around 30. Per previous post, the dyno is best w/ 22-24. The Fat Book carries the screws along with discs. Screws are about 35$. Many H-D dealers give a discount on Fat Book items( mine gives 10%).

(Message edited by warlizard on March 06, 2008)
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Freeflyer
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

6 SCREWS $35 WTF WTF WTF that is rape . go to a good hardware store (not home cheapo) Im pretty sure they are stainless steel. Mine are 2 3/16 long with 2 inchs actual thread.
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