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Turboglh
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2008 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been looking for an X1 recently, but stumbled across a reasonably priced M2 that's only a couple hours from me.

Bike is reported to have 14k on the clock and has the owner pulled the primary off to start replacing a bad clutch.

I looked but didn't find anything that indicates clutches as a normal problem area, so 14k with a bad clutch says either abuse or a first time bike owner to me. Is the clutch a problem area or am I on the right path.

Also, anything I should be asking or looking at besides checking if all recalls have been done? It's at a reasonable price of $2500, and a clutch replacement is not an issue for me so the purchase isn't deterred by that. I just want to make sure I cover all my bases.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2008 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The clutches on these beasts are tough. If it needs replacing, it might mean abuse.
However, I did have a bearing fail on my 00 M2 at about 19,000 miles.
If I was to buy that bike I'd sure want to hear it run first then make a decision from there.

Brad
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Bigblock
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2008 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

40,000 miles on my 2000 M2, just replaced second gear, and the clutch looked perfect still. And I'll tell ya, I have been none to gentle with her...
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Jjjoutside
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2008 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine was slipping when I bought it (5k miles) and the PO claimed it might need new clutch... simply adjustment issue. Nice and tight now... no problems in 5k more miles.

JJJ
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds bogus to me too.
mine lasted more than 50000.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 05:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What year? That's going to tell you which recall issues it may have. the 02's were the most sorted, I'm not aware of any recalls for that model year.
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Turboglh
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got a reply back from the owner.

"he bike was taken out for its first ride of the season, upon going for about a 30 mile ride I seen a buddy of mine near his house. So being me I caught up to him and attempted to pass his truck. When I pulled in front to garb third (??) the wheels lost the power. The motor was still sounding normal (revs up and down) so I thought it was a belt. I pulled over to check out the belt, but it was fine... not even loose. When the bike was running I put it into gear and tried to take off. No matter what the RPM was the bike would only inch forward, not even fast enough to ride. So I pushed it to my buddies house, then trailered it to my parents garage. I then purchased the factory service manual. I asked everyone I know what they thought it was, everyone seems to be pointing to the clutch. So I opened the primary to see what was in there. To be perfectly honest I got nervous, I didn't want to screw it up any more so I stopped with hopes of bringing it to the HD shop"

Kind of questionable to me. All my experience is with cars and the power turbines at work, but a clutch usually exhibits some symptoms before giving up the ghost entirely.

Any knows issues with breaking mainshaft's or stripping teeth from the clutch steels.
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm, check the front pulley of the final drive, could have spun the splines. M2 models aren't known for this, but it does happen, and his symptoms sound like it is a good possibility.

If you go to see the bike in person, don't start it up right away. Just put it in gear, and without using the clutch try to push the bike forward and backward and listen to what you hear. Have the owner do the same while you kneel down and listen close. Then if it doesn't move without turning over the engine then go ahead and have the owner start it up, bike in gear, clutch lever pulled in, hand holding front brake firmly, and once running start to slip the clutch out a little to see if it wants to grab. It could be a clutch plate issue, or a happy throttle clutch slipper owner. Could also be something else, hard to say without seeing the bike in person.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like tranny work to me.
Perhaps the detante plate popped off?

Is the clutch taken off?

It might still be a good deal since these old bikes have trapdoor and it would cost less than $1000 to fix most likely.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could be a catastrophic failure of the clutch spring, or that detente assembly may have failed. Both are reasonable fixes, not a big deal. As Nate points out, M2 transmissions are easy to work on.
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the clutch is that bad, it would have stunk to high heaven when you pulled the cover off.Since I don't hear anything about the smell..........it's got to be somewhere else....Charlie
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Turboglh
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clutch is still on the bike, primary cover is off. No mention of the lovely aroma of burned clutch, so I'll probably be taking a ride in the next month or so to check it out and maybe make an offer. I can't justify $2500 with unknown problems, so I'll make an offer and see where it goes.

Thanks for all the help.
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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Turboglh:

If the SPRING PLATE has not been replaced, you need to do this while you have the clutch cover off !!!

If you do not know what to do, e-mail me and "i" will e-mail you the information ...

Ljenne73c@vericon.net

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LaFayette
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