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Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 05:58 am: | 
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>>>>These nations don't adhere to world standards and just churn out crap for profit.
Damn . . . and just as I bought a new Dell computer.
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Sanchez
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 08:00 am: |
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> My '99 had the 'Turkey' stamp on the bearings.
My '02 had 'Ham' stamped on the bearings. I guess they ran out of turkey.  |
Djkaplan
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 09:49 am: |
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"My attitude is fine."
No it isn't. |
Warlizard
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 10:25 am: |
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The instigator himself chimes in. I knew you wouldn't miss an opportunity. It's like a little clique of " know-it-alls". They must be used to everyone accepting the BS they spew out. When they get called up on a post, they sure get defensive and in many cases-offensive. Don't challenge people if you have no f'ing idea what your talking about. Don't you get tired of looking like idiots? I think there are just enough of you to start a band. As annoying as you tools are, you are good for a laugh. |
Djkaplan
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 10:31 am: |
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I rest my case. |
Warlizard
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 10:42 am: |
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I rest mine. Go change your pad and bother someone else. If you don't like the article I posted - cry to the web-site. You are an annoying little pr#*k. I imagine you give most people you meet an attitude, you have that quality. May I suggest meeting w/ a therapist to improve your social skills? It couldn't hurt, you have nowhere to go but up. |
Kmbuell
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 10:51 am: |
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Children, may I suggest you both go buy a copy of "The No A**shole Rule" by Robert Sutton.
While it can be entertaining watching you piss on each others leg, it is quite boring.
Grow up, be an adult, or go play somewhere else. |
Bigdaddy
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 11:05 am: |
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You're wrong on so many levels, but something tells me it'd be a complete waste of time trying to explain. |
Beatx1
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 12:21 pm: |
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Problem solved! Buy a set a ceramic bearings. They cost a bundle but are supposed to last 3 times longer than stock and reduce rolling friction for an increase in (ducking out of the line of fire) rear wheel horsepower. You can't lose |
Buellboyblue
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 12:26 pm: |
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'99 M2; 44k miles on orig bearings
just got on fresh tires, belt, lubes, brake rotor; Life is fine!
...real old schoolers don't sweat the small stuff! |
Buellboyblue
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 12:30 pm: |
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Hey Steve,
How beat ? One of these days i'll post a pic in profile of my daily driver. I'd love to see other guys rides that aren't so shiney.
Kinley |
Blackbelt
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 02:10 pm: |
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HOLY COW has this gotten out of hand...
Warlizard - your 1st post was just dandy and very well spoken (no harsh words thrown out and just information)
Court just wanted to know where your information came from (he likes to make sure of accuarate statements are made-I know he ment no dis-respect)
Your 2nd post started to go bad.. when you informed court of "Just because yours didn't fail doesn't mean sh#t." You don't need to be harsh to anyone here, no one said anything against you... well until harsh statements were made, then the poo started to fling... The wheel bearing post is answered, and your facts were good from other sources. SO RELAX!!!
OK enough of me being the referee... Court is a GREAT guy here, and he deserves a little more respect. It takes a ton to get me involved in this stuff. Ok back to your corners.
My 2Cents, if you are worried about your bearings, change them out.. not too terribly expensive, and easy to do... If you have the right tools... ok I am done
oh yeah and my 2002 X1 had 37,000 miles and no problems... but wasn't PM wheels...
(Message edited by blackbelt on September 19, 2007) |
Jayvee
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 03:07 pm: |
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Hey BeatX1, got a good source for ceramic bearings?
Ceramic ? Isn't that like "China" ?
Oh no, not again... |
Beatx1
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 04:18 pm: |
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I think American Sports Bike used to have them. I also saw in road race magazine someone had complete ceramic bearings including tranny bearings. Very pricey. My bike is undergoing a Joesbuell style conversion with the XB rear swingarm, rims, front forks, and chain drive. Almost got the bike together and noticed my rear shock mount has a little too much flex in it. I'll bum my daughter's camera and take some shots of the poor thing.
(Message edited by beatx1 on September 19, 2007) |
Warlizard
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 06:39 pm: |
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Black - I respectfully disagree. Hogwash is another word for BS, which is another word for a lie. Why not just ask me where I heard it? He basically implied that I just made it up. I must admit it is a little concerning that someone w/ their own link on this site wasn't aware of the bearing issue. Even after I posted the article, I was still being challenged. I am pretty easy going until my buttons are pushed. |
Firemanjim
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 07:08 pm: |
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WL,you need to take a deep breath and calm down. I see you are a bit new around here so you need to know the folks you are dealing with. Court was here when it was an e-mail list and was a Buell employee at one time,has a bazillion miles on Buells and libraries of info on the bikes.
You are quoting a piece written by another old school Badwebber, Don Casto, he garnered his info here and by talking to lots of owners--I was one of them--so don't take his piece as the Holy Bible of Buell information because there are alot of other sources.
Calm, rational discourse gets so much more information and causes no loss of respect.
BTW, most of the bearing failures were rear wheel and directly related to improper belt tension and/or use of a powerwasher.
I have those ceramic wheel bearings in the racebike--big money!
And some of the rest of you guys need a little restraint as well,be nice--- |
Rick_a
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 07:53 pm: |
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Woodcraft, Yoyodyne, NRHS, and a couple others carry ceramic bearings. Some even carry engine kits. Racers that use 'em swear by 'em. |
Mmmi_grad
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 08:39 pm: |
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I remember a problem with the belt tension of the early tubers that cost me a PM wheel. I wonder how much this has added to the early failure of bearings.
Joe
Joe! An excellent point made, I hope people here are going with the 2 inch or 2 1/4 slop spec on the belt, but ah that was another story.
My belt was run tight for about 4000 miles until a bump in the road snapped it. I am on the new XB belt from American Sport Bike It was a nice day and I was on my way to pick up a girlfriend.....She made it all good though.
(Message edited by mmmi_grad on September 19, 2007) |
Kyrocket
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 08:52 pm: |
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Can anyone give a number on the price of ceramics? By pricey do you mean pricey for bearings or just way too pricey in general?
Crap, what was the question again? All this bickering just has me all tore up! |
Guell
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 09:35 pm: |
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the nhrs ceramic bearings were over 400 i believe, looked at them last night, but i had a few drinks so its a little foggy
(Message edited by Guell on September 19, 2007) |
Oldog
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:34 am: |
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Turkish and korean bearings in my PM wheels please see KV on how NOT to change them
impending failure 12k, bearings from American Sport Bike @ 22k grease evident at 27 k 
Japanese bearings greased with shell SRI grease I am thinking about attempting a re grease .... these will be run to death.. |
Kyrocket
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 08:23 am: |
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400 clams, yeah, that's pretty much out of my range right now. |
Beatx1
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:35 pm: |
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This is for full ceramic bearings, also on the site are other types of ceramic bearing. I do believe I ordered my rear wheel bearings from these guys. http://www.vxb.com/page/bearings/CTGY/FullCeramicB earings
(Message edited by beatx1 on September 20, 2007) |
Jayvee
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 01:30 pm: |
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Wow, that vxb place is half the price of every other place. These are not much more than the American Sport Bike price of regular bearings.
"Full ceramic" means the races are also ceramic? Not explained clearly, but that's what it looks like. And Hybrid Ceramic means ceramic balls, steel races, I deduce.
Either one is equally suitable for wheels? |
Beatx1
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 07:23 pm: |
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Check the entire listing for bearings. I think they have a section for motorcycles and give them a call for things that aren't listed. I found bearing for little electric motors we work on here. |
Tyronewildman
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 08:06 am: |
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Don't remember the brand of front wheel bearings, but they felt just a little rough, just rolling them on my last tire change. My '02 S3T had about 28k mi on it & I noticed that the bearing spacer was held in so tightly, between the 2 inner races, that I couldn't move it over to remove the bearings. I had a bike machine shop pull the bearings & rolling them in my hand, they were intact but really rough. I also don't remember the brand but I bought 2 of the best grade bearings from http://www.mcmaster.com/ and pulled them in with a threaded rod (with spacers, contacting only the outer races) till they seated. Again, I noticed that the bearing spacer was held in extremely tight between the inner races. The bearings were a little hard to turn which meant that the bearing recesses were cut in too deep which let the outer races go in too far which let the bearing spacer put too much pressure on the inner races. I managed to move the bearing spacer over enough to use a drift to tap one of the bearings out slightly. The bearing spacer is still held in place, between the bearings, but now can be easily moved from side to side and the bearings turned easily, as they should. It is now not putting any side load on the balls when the wheel is installed & the axel is tightened. They all may not be like mine but my bearing holes were cut too deep (by only a few thousands) and caused side load on bearings which caused wear on the bearings. They make side load bearings for side loading applications but radial load bearings aren’t meant to handle much side loads. I guess that’s why they call them radial bearings. What do you guys & gals think? Now if my Blast gears were as easy to change as my ’84 Sporty gears were, I would have new low gears in it & it wouldn’t be trying to jump out of low. Later,,, De  |
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