| Author | Message | ||
     Torquemonster |
Found a complete cf hamcan setup on ebay for cheap. Dude says to use an M2 race ecm in conjunction for better results. Found one of those, too.(not so cheap) The ecm says "lightning series" on it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buell-M2-Cyclone-Race-ECM-Computer_W0QQitemZ190149084969QQihZ009QQcategoryZ35571QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Any input? (Message edited by TORQUEMONSTER on September 09, 2007) | ||
| Mmmi_grad |
Yes it should What does your ignition look like? crane has a ignition module like this for sale too. You might need the rotor with this too not sure though? Cant confirm it (Message edited by mmmi_grad on September 09, 2007) | ||
| Torquemonster |
Good question...a lil black box. Mine doesnt have any graphics or frills. So, Just buyin the ham can setup and this race ignition that dude is selling wont be ALL Ill need then, right? Im just gathering that from what you said about "$400 for the Crane version- that includes the whole ignition system". Will it be absolutely necessary to purchase new plug wires and a coil? Thanks, man. ***Saw your edit. Im thinking that Im not knowledgeable enough to begin this process on my own. I thought that with a V&H exhaust (already installed, and jetted carb to boot) a different aircleaner and additional jetting, Id be good to go. Wow...Ive got some studying to do. Thanks for trying to help, man. I 'preciate it. (Message edited by TORQUEMONSTER on September 09, 2007) | ||
| Firemanjim |
TM, don't really need a race module.They just give a higher rev limit and different curv. Better options out there with module choices. Crane,Dyna,etc. They have multiple curves,adjustable rev limiters, single fire, etc. | ||
| Warlizard |
You are better off w/ the SE module. You don't really need a new coil, not for the mods u have listed. They are expensive and you can get more bang for the money by putting it elsewhere. | ||
| Cyclonecharlie |
As long as you have the stock cams,you won't get any benefit from a race ecm. Spend your money else where, a good set of tires possibly.  Charlie | ||
| Aesquire |
The race module does not raise rev limit. It does change advance curve, AND use a "hard" rev limit method. Good for 1 HP on top & bit down low. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/10398.html?1059591514 The stock box retards the timing before rev limit, giving a "soft" shutoff. I actually run the stock box to give me the more forgiving shutoff in around town spirited running. I can feel the "sag" in power, & shift, without watching the tach. Downside? This means that the acceleration drops off above ( about ) 110-120 mph, but still pulls to redline. The Race box just pulls hard 'till redline. Roar, gasp, roar. I do have a '98 ecm box surplus to my needs if anyone needs one. ( won't fit 2000+ ) It's just a bolt on, no other mods ( wires/coil/pickup) needed. | ||
| Psycrow |
I had been High Bidder on that Hamcan I see it's up to $160. Getting to the "Wife will kill me" price range. If your going for it TorqueM I wont run up the bid on a fellow BadWebber. | ||
| Torquemonster |
Actually, I was more concerned about losing the "race ecm" but thx to these guys Im not going to waste any money today.  Ive already got a hamcan setup with the Amer. Sportbike velocity stack waiting for my $ in Cali. Should even have enough left over for new jets and the breather setup. Thanks for the consideration, though. Its great to be a part of such a considerate and helpful crowd of enthusiasts. Thanks again to all of you for your help. | ||
| Djkaplan |
Make sure you get a hamcan made for Buells. A Harley hamcan fits, but it isn't offset to the front for knee clearance. I wasn't able to feel a seat-of-the-pants difference with the race ecm on my M2 except at the very top. It does seem to make a difference when you're tucked in top gear and getting close to the rev limiter, but I rarely find myself in that situation on the street (but I have a few times). The difference is subtle, though. | ||
| Psycrow |
I may have to go with whatever I can afford. If I stay at $100(+/- $20) the wife won't kill me but I really want to ditch the "Breadbox" on my 02 M2. I can't Imagine knee clearance being too much of a problem I'm only 5'7" with a 28" inseam. | ||
| Torquemonster |
I was wondering why some were offset and some werent...DUH. Thanks for clearing that up for me. <slaps> Jayvee's got one for me and its offset. I just havent heard anything in a week or two, so I pray its still available. Jackie's gonna throw in the Amer. Sportbike velocity stack with it. Anyone used one of these yet? What'd ya think? Psycrow- PMd ya, man. (Message edited by torquemonster on September 10, 2007) | ||
| Brinnutz |
Aesquire said : The race module does not raise rev limit. Uhh, yes it does, mine went from 5800 to 6800rpm..... | ||
| Torquemonster |
I think allows a higher rev, as its stamped on the side of the box -"Rev 6800" So when you change over to X1 cams, you have to change the box as well to take full advantage of the new rev limit. I get it now...geez. Sometimes I think I need to trade my bike for a seat on the short bus. (Message edited by torquemonster on September 10, 2007) | ||
| Djkaplan |
The rev limit didn't get higher when I put the race ecm (the entire race kit actually) on my M2. Top speed is the same as far as I can tell - it just gets there a little sooner. | ||
| Aesquire |
Both the stock & race ignition boxes for 2000+ M2's have a 6800 rpm limit. My post above has a link to the Dyno test results. There IS a difference in advance curves, and in the "nature" of the rev limiter. The Stocker has a soft cutoff. I believe it retards the ignition as you approach redline, ( about 6500?? ) I don't think it skips sparks. ( Starts feeling bog-gy above 120 in 5th. then stutters at 6800/135mph maxed out. ) The race box just pulls until it shuts down. ( power is smooth, albeit acceleration is decreasing due to air drag, all the way to 6800 ) With both boxes, My 2001 M2L gets to top speed, & surges as the spark shuts down/turns back on. I admit to only holding these speeds for a very few miles due to a concern for safety and cowardice in the face of mutilation & legal trouble. |
