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Archive through August 14, 2007Firemanjim30 08-14-07  03:40 pm
         

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Nocompromise
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Jim!! I'm going to drive to Concord in just a bit to pick up my engine covers and exhaust (had the old powder coating stripped and then ceramic coated). I'll see how far I can get removing the heads, but that Torx bolt is puzzling me. If tomorrow afternoon works for you, that would be great with me. I'll give you a call. Thanks again!!! I hope you like New Castle because I stocked up at Costco.
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Tattoodnscrewd
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That Torx screw shouldn't present a problem... (assuming you mean the one in the top right of the picture ) Don't know if I'd try to tap in the larger bit ... use the one intended for it, it is the T45, you should be fine ...

I removed it when I blew a head gasket on the S1, and again when I rebuilt the top end with XB stuff .. and yet again when I realized a piston ring (the scavenging ring) was upside down and had to pull it apart yet again ....

In fact - the first time I did it without a torque wrench, and the Torx bit broke from over-tightening, and it did not strip out the screw - reused the screws every time ... not even close to stripped and has held together for a few thousand miles already .. ... Just use a torque wrench when you tighten ..

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Oldbiker
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you haven't pulled the head yet try stuffin' a glob of wheel bearing grease down the plug hole....then stuff an old stocking in....stocking picks up grease and troublesome plastic. A small trick learned long ago to redo stripped plug holes without removing the head on an outboard.

Steve
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Nocompromise
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tatood - thanks for the info about the T45. I bought a Craftsman T45 socket just to make sure I had a good one, and it still fits loose. I'll take your word and give it a shot. If it strips, then I am holding you personally responsible!!

Oldbiker, that actually sounds quite promising. Is wheel bearing grease different than regular grease? Will the stocking get most of the grease out, or is that not an issue? Thanks for the tip!!
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Oldbiker
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nocompromise...wheel grease IS heavy and sticky...if none available..use as heavy as you can find. If you get the plastic and the grease whatever little is left will burn off. Do yourself a favor....add a 12" tweezer to your tool kit...it'l get used more than once.

Steve
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Nocompromise
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 02:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, here's my update: Fireman Jim is the MAN!! He was kind enough to come over this evening and help me pull the front (chopstick infested) head, clean out the residue, reinstall the head, and change out the motor mount. Just as I suspected, I would've screwed up at least half a dozen things completing those tasks, and I'm sure it would've taken me at least 3 times as long. THANKS JIM!!!! Just let me know where you want to go to dinner, and we will set it up.

Oldbiker, I tried messing around with a stocking, but it would barely fit through the spark plug hole. That hole is just too darned small to get anything!! I also tried a long, flexible picker upper but it was too cramped.

So, the ending of the story is that the chopstick basically splintered into about a thousand pieces. There were a few bigger splinters along with some chopstick dust in the cylinder. A few minutes of vacuuming took care of it. I guess it was better to be safe than sorry, but I'm sure glad Jim was there!

I'm going to pick up my engine covers and exhaust tomorrow. So, I just have to install the covers, reinstall the rocker boxes and rocker box covers, and throw on the exhaust! It sounds pretty straight forward, but I'm sure I'll manage to booger something up. Jim and I only forgot one thing throughout the project tonight - we torqued down the head bolts and then realized that we had left the pushrod covers off. I guess I'll reserve final judgment until I fire her up and she works properly. I can actually see the light at the end of the tunnel!! Thanks everyone for being so helpful!

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Smoke
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 06:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

good job. i always torque the heads before i put the pushrods and covers on. one less thing to keep lined up. you definitely need to put the covers on before torqueing the rocker arms. did y'all change out the oil pump drive? also, if you have not already pulled the primary cover off you might want to check the tightness of the engine sprocket nut and the clutch hub nut. had one of each backed off on different buells i have picked up. another is the nut on the forward pulley. clutch hub and forward pulley nuts are both l/h thread. also had the rear pulley bolts back out on another buell i got. the pic of the cams is exactly like how my gears lined up.
great fun!!
tim
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