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Hotrats
| Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 09:42 pm: |
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hi, just bought a RS1200, and the gas tank liner is flaking (breaking) up. i remember seeing in the archives that others have had this problem, but can't find a fix in the archive. anyone have any ideas? thanks in advance andyh |
Tom_b
| Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 11:24 pm: |
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Fill tank with paint thinner, it will soften up liner. Drain tank and do it again reusing old thinner just run thru a strainer. will probably have to do it about 5 or 6 times to get it all out and then recoat. Good luck, that is a real pain because it turns into a really gummy mess |
Leftcoastal
| Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 11:48 pm: |
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The extra RS1200 bodywork that I sold a while back had that too. Maybe Bart (the new owner) will chime in here if he tackled the problem yet, with his solution. I think I'd try using some old bolts or something (in a dry tank - & be sure to count 'em!) first to loosen any flakes, before trying the thinner method. AL (Message edited by leftcoastal on June 07, 2007) |
Josh_
| Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 12:46 am: |
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After my tank cracked and started dripping gas I turned it over to a custom boat shop (think $1million cigarette boats and repairing race boats) who re-lined and repaired it for me. See if you can find a like shop in your area. |
Steveshakeshaft
| Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 05:08 am: |
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I'll have to take a look in my tank. I hadn't heard of this. Will the paint thinners damage the external paint when it drips down it? |
Tom_b
| Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 07:42 am: |
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this is a liner that H/D and several other companies used on their fuel tanks that is a problematic due to improper application. Have had several friends had to reline their tanks. If you don't slop the thinner, or tape off the outside and cover with plastic it won't get on the outside. this liner is similar to kreme coat. If you can find a shop to do it I would in a minute rather than myself. Don't use bolts as they are a pain to get out, use a short chain. Or just run a good fuel filter and be prepared to have to clean it often at some very inconvenient times (Message edited by tom_b on June 08, 2007) |
Steveshakeshaft
| Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 08:50 am: |
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Or just run a good fuel filter and be prepared to have to clean it often at some very inconvenient times That is exactly what I was thinking. There are two solenoid operated fuel taps, so fit two filters and clean them/it when I get home? |
Road_thing
| Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 10:20 am: |
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Anybody know how to get Kreem out of a tank? I Kreemed the Norton's tank, and the stuff is cracking and coming loose. rt |
Doncasto
| Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 11:24 am: |
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Tom: I just happened to be reading the Kreem instructions this morning . . . "Acetone or Methyl ethyl keytone will re-dissolve Kreem. Fill tank about half full, seal the tank and leave for 24 hours with periodic agitation. Drain into a container and inspect tank. If Kreem remains, pour solution back into tank, reseal and repeat until all the Kreem is removed." I recently Kreem-ed a tank that had some moderately serious rust problems. I poured in the commonly accepted "handful of nuts an bolts" but discovered that the whole "turning and tumbling" thing was causing me elevated levels of agitation while not really doing much to the rust. I took the tank into the house, wrapped it in old blankets and stuffed it into the clothes dryer. I ran it on "air only" for about an hour . . .noisy as all hell, but the rust was pounded into complete submission. Caveat: The "dryer" method was carried out in the complete absence of anything approaching the status of a "significant other" . . .those of you residing in estrogen enhanced environments may find your results altered by the delicate sensibilities of the Y-chromosome challenged beings. YMMV . . .and always consider the source. Don |
Court
| Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 12:36 pm: |
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Try that next time you are in my house! I'm still on probation for the carb in the dishwasher trick. Charley and Jack TOGETHER ain't big enough to defend us on that one. . . . and how embarrasing for two fellows of our considerable combined girth, truck drivin' dudes no less, to have our butts kicked by a 100# Italian? That would be ugly . . . very ugly. |
Road_thing
| Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 01:33 pm: |
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Acetone, huh? Isn't that what Court used to un-glue Jack from the house a few years back? Highly flammable and smelly, to boot--sounds perfect! Thanks, Don! rt ps--those front mount bolts you so kindly sent me a couple of years back are on the road in my S2--thanks again! |
Road_thing
| Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 01:36 pm: |
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Oh, and Court, don't forget the frozen beers that burst in your freezer last summer. I doubt the statute of limitations has run out on that one yet... rt |
Tom_b
| Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 09:42 pm: |
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I've read the kreme coat instructions too! but in reality it can really suck to get out. Myself and a friend did a tank that took 14 times before it all came out. I still prefer the chain over the bolts and nuts, never try b b's they are real hard to get out. I will remember the dryer thing. Maybe use an all nite laundromat when no one is around, save myself a beating from the wife |
Leftcoastal
| Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 10:32 am: |
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I think if you try the "quick - let's do the dryer tumble before the wife gets home" with your RS tank, you're gonna be one unhappy camper when it comes out with all those flat fiberglass protuberances broke thefukoff!
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Road_thing
| Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2007 - 09:27 pm: |
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Don: The acetone worked like a charm! Thanks! rt |
Court
| Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 06:17 am: |
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Yeah . . . I'm on chemical restriction . . . so yesterday I spent the day with power tools. Could get dangerous. Siriusly (I get $0.05 a use from them) if you are using Acetone be sure to follow common safety procedures. . . . |
Steveshakeshaft
| Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 09:00 am: |
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......like not smoking...... |
Hotrats
| Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 07:37 pm: |
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ok, first - thanks for all the info. i've looked around on the net, and found some different brands/types of liners. kreeme coat, PHENOL NOVOLAC EPOXY GAS TANK SEALER, http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm?so urce=overture&OVRAW=repair%20gas%20tank&OVKEY=repa ir%20gas%20tank&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=918792021&OV KWID=5512384021 KBS Gas Tank Sealer http://www.kbs-coatings.com/KBS-Gas-Tank-Sealer-C3 8.aspx anyone have any advice or experience with these tank sealers? i've used the kreeme coating before with bad results. but that was because of the inexperience of the person applying it (me). again, thanks in advance andyh |
Tom_b
| Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 10:06 pm: |
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actually when I said paint thinner earlier, I meant acetone. But if kreme coat is installed correctly it will do great. Have done several tanks one was messed up, but the four others were great. |
S2pengy
| Posted on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 10:33 pm: |
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POR makes a very good one.. http://www.por15.com/Cycle-Tank-Repair-Kit?sc=2&ca tegory=170 |