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Snowscum
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I hear you cant rebuild them. Where can you buy one thats affordable? Thanks in advance.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They can be rebuilt but I don't where. Nothing is affordable new, but used Penske and Works Performance shocks show up in the classifieds now and then. If you see one, jump on it cause they go fast. Penske says they charge $90 plus shipping for a rebuild and recharge, btw.

I can't say enough about how poor the stock Showas are compared to how great the Penske is. I used to think the underslung shock arrangement wasn't a good concept, but it was just the extremely bad shock making it suck.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dj, what is it about the stock shock that sucks? I have a 97 S1 that is my first street bike so I have nothing to compare it to. Its a really stiff suspension though. Im just curious what an aftermarket shock will do that a stock one wont.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Its a really stiff suspension though."

That's exactly it. I found the stock rear Showa on my 2000 M2 to be not just stiff feeling, but also jarring. It's like it would go into compression lock over bumps and was very harsh no matter how much I reduced the damping or spring preload. The replacement Showa with the reservoir wasn't much better. The used Penske I got last year (right here in the classifieds) has firm damping that will actually yield to sharp bumps in the road and I can actually feel the rear suspension working.

I feel certain the Penske has saved my bacon already with it's incredible control over the rear end. That, and my bag of luck, which is still a little full.
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Jc000
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dj, you're running the Penske on your M2? Which model is it (the shock)? Did you have to do any mods to get it to work/mount on your bike?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got the mid level 8900 shock (from Anthony Caligiuri at Liberty HD). It has has the rebound and compression damping adjustment, ride height adjustment (more important than I realized), and of course, spring preload. I called Penske and got the special spring preload tool (just a little bent rod... the shipping cost more than the tool!) and was good to go.

The only mod I had to make was finding a place to mount the reservoir. I made a little bracket to mount it under the engine. Click the link for pics of beautiful M2's and a rousing discussion...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/251321.html?1174501613

Make sure you know the weight of the rider the Penske was built for if you buy a used one. They are spec built for each application. Luckily, I'm the same weight as Anthony Caligiuri...
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Jc000
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice! Thanks...

BTW, you're a fellow Mtn Biker? Or you just happen to have bicycle parts hanging around 'just in case'?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm a guy with a mountain bike, but I am no mountain biker. It's just a cheap DS aluminum framed Motiv that I upgraded with an old Rockshox Judy TT fork, nothing special. I mainly use it to get around the manufacturing plant I point and holler at, but sometimes I'll launch off the loading docks for kicks.

I should really know better.
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Eshardball
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PM 98S1Lightning. I just bought his reworked S1 shock when he upgraded. He has a friend that rebuilds them at a reasonable price. Made a major difference in handling. I am more than disappointed in the fact that my shock crapped out after less than 14K considering that it is a replacement for the recalled shock
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I rebuilt my Showa...installed a Gold Valve and moved the reservoir away from the exhaust. Race Tech is the only suspension shop I know of that will do them. I don't think any Showa can be expected to last over 15K. They just don't have enough internal support with the shaft extended and use a small bushing with little bearing surface. The Race Tech'd shock is a lot better than stock but still fades when rode hard...and still doesn't last.
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Eshardball
Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So it would seem that the Penske is the way to go. The question is how much?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"...how much?"

I paid $500 for mine and think it was worth every penny. There isn't too many times in my life I've had something that can lay claim to being 'best in the world'...the closest I've come is with that used Penske.
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Jc000
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have any of you got experience with/opinions on the Works shock?
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Bad_karma
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jon
Not yet have one ordered from American Sport Bike for the S3.
Joe
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Snowscum
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the info guys!
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