| Author | Message | ||
     Mikef5000 |
I don't understand where the resivoir is supposed to go. It's quite a bit bigger than the factory one, so it doesn't fit in the factory clamp, and it doesn't appear to fit in there behind the exhaust where the factory one did either. Maybe I need to loosen the bolt holing the hose on and change the angle the hose is at coming off the shock? The arrow's pointing at a small hole, that the factory clamp can bolt to, but the metal hose does NOT like that kind of angle. Do I have it on right?  Also, How exactly do I adjust the ride height? Whenever I try to move the locknut, the whole spring perch rotates on the shaft. Do I just keep pushing? Thanks guys! (Message edited by Mikef5000 on March 19, 2007) | ||
| Loki |
1)on the res the knob goes forward 2)that is the hole the clamp bolt will go through 3)to adjust the pre load, you need to adjust the long bolts on the sides of the spring. making sure that the distance is equal on each one 4)do loosen the hose fittings, or you will lose oil. The hose will make a sharp "U" when properly mounted (Message edited by loki on March 19, 2007) | ||
| Mikef5000 |
I rotated the hose a bit. I guess it'll fit up in the factory location, but it's CLOSE to lots of things. About a quarter inch from the spring itself, and a quarter inch from the header (WHICH GETS HOT!!!!!!) It's also touching the oil lines above it. Is this right?  I guess I'll go see if Napa has the factory kind of clamp only larger, but I seriously doubt it. What kind of clamp do the recommend, and how do I find one? | ||
| Mikef5000 |
ahh, I'm holding the resivoir backwards. Lemme try again. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
I must be missing something. There is no way that little hose is going to allow that resivoir to point the other way. Anybody have a picture? I searched briefly with no luck. I guess I'll search again. | ||
| Ebutch |
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/Sca n172March192007.jpg | ||
| Ebutch |
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/Sca n173March192007.jpg | ||
| Ebutch |
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/Sca n174March192007.jpg | ||
| Ebutch |
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/Sca n175March192007.jpg | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Do I have mine on upside down? Is the hose supposed to come out of the shock on the top or bottom?  Thanks for the pictures tho! | ||
| Ebutch |
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/Sca n176March192007.jpg | ||
| Naustin |
Top would make more sense as the fitting wouldn't be exposed to road debris as much. Just a guess. nick | ||
| Ebutch |
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/P10 10116.jpg | ||
| Ebutch |
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/Sca n177March192007.jpg | ||
| Ebutch |
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/Sca n178March192007.jpg | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Gotchya. I've got it on upside down. Crap, The side that's out now it prettier than the other side. And crap, I already disassembled my lift. Is the factory clamp supposed to fit? | ||
| Ebutch |
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/Sca n179March192007.jpg | ||
| Ebutch |
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/Sca n180March192007.jpg | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Napa has the next size up clamp. It looks to be too big tho, but I'll give it a try tomorrow after work. One way or another I'll be riding tomorrow evening. This sunday if the weather holds I plan on taking a long and fairly twisty ride. I'll play with the suspension settings a little while I'm out. (I'll also play with helmet-cam mounting locations!) I'm going to start out SOFT! Around 2 on both settings. I figure that's probably about right for a 130lb rider?! | ||
| Firemanjim |
Mike,IIRC the new shock had a smaller clamp.I probably have several if you cannot source one.(I kept my WP shock so have easy reference) And the WP shock was supposedly a bit oversprung,so a 130ish rider will need to soften it up a bit.Remember to set sag first.At least that will be easier for you--I had my son at 120 lbs and had to have him hold weights to get to my 185. My wife was out as she is all of 100 lbs. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Ok, that explanes it, because there is no way this factory clamp is fitting. Napa's is way to big. Looks like I'm going to have to rig it up with the factory clamp and zip ties! Firemanjim, if you have the right size, I'll paypal you some money right now if you can get it mailed tomorrow! (Or soon) PM ME! Also, it's OK that the black plastic adjuster knob is less than half an inch away from the headerpipe? I understand how its supposed to fit now, but MAN is it close! | ||
| Djkaplan |
Would a bracket like this help?  You could use the the reservoir clamp part and fab a mount for it. It comes in different diameters for different sized reservoirs. Maybe one would fit your WP. Fellow tuber owner Jayvee and I have had an ongoing discussion on mounting Penske reservoirs. He posted a link to a distributor who sells the brackets on this thread... http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/251321.html?1174421861 Check out Jayvee's bike, Mike. I think you'll like it! | ||
| Mikef5000 |
NOW I'm getting frustrated. So I now have a clamp that will work. Same idea as the factory. Problem is NOW. The resivoir is up against the header when bolted on.  Notice how the knob is touching the exhaust, and the hose fitting is touching the bracket. Therefor it cannot move either way. GGGRRRRRrrrrrrrr | ||
| Djkaplan |
Mike... I don't think WP dampers were ever installed on last generation tube framers from the factory. The earlier tuber exhaust system may have provided more room for the WP reservoir (just conjecture on my part). Keep at it and come up with an elegant solution, dude! That's half the fun of these bikes... for me at least. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
I think i've got it. Test ride time. I'm going to assume that little plastic knob is supposed to be damn close to the header. But I've got it so it's not touching now. It's about a quarter inch away. | ||
| Ebutch |
Put a little alum. foil on shock knob to reflect heat from header. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
You might be in trouble if you get caught in traffic. Perhaps a little heatshield? Is your resovoir a lot larger than the stocker? Mine seems to have lots of room.   | ||
| Ebutch |
Go to heavy equipment shop have a longer hose made up.Should solve problem.Then you can move more away from ex. or use nob only for adj.( take nob off and on) or loosen banjoe bolts move hose around. (Message edited by ebutch on March 20, 2007) (Message edited by ebutch on March 20, 2007) | ||
| Iamike |
My hose was long enough to go around front and hang the reservoir on the frame on the left side. People really ask then "What is that thing?" You just have to be careful that the hose doesn't rub on anything. | ||
| Sportyeric |
I can't offer any input to your problem but it has me wondering for my own purposes: can that hose be loosened and the fitting rotated? I thought it was presurized with nitrogen. (My stock shock has the hose coming at an awkward looking angle after being rebuilt. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
I loosened mine and rotated it slightly and tightened it back up. I lost one drop of fluid. OK! Stupid question time: Turning both knobs to 1 should make it the softest correct? To lower it, I tighten the rods which should effectively shorten the spring, and lower the bike. Is that right? This shock seems taller than the last (which was taller than the first). Am I backwards? Do I need to lengthen the rods to lower it? I just thought about it too much, and now I'm all confused. | ||
| Aaomy |
adjusting the rods longer will lessen spring pressure and allow the bike to sag. if you want to " lower" the bike loosen the bolts , make the rods longer, relieve spring pressure.. how ever you want to put it.. | ||
| Ebutch |
I weight 190, 6 Ft shorter spring for me means stiffer ride which I need.I like exposed spring shock,looks,more adjustments hence the more complicated usely best. | ||
| Djkaplan |
I don't want to complicate things, but sag and ride height are two different variables. If you use spring preload to set ride height lower, your sag may be way over the recommended setting from the factory. Regardless of how much you weigh, the recommended sag measurements don't change. I can't remember what the rear sag is, but the front is between 1" and 1 1/2". Also, is adjusting the rods the recommended way to set spring preload on a WP (White Power) shock? | ||
| Mikef5000 |
But I thought the shock was supposed to be at X length with the rider on it. Since mine doesn't budge when I sit on it, I figured it doesn't go down to the factory spec. I'll try loosening the bolts and see where that puts me. | ||
| Djkaplan |
One of the parts lists Ebutch linked to has what's called out as a "light rider adjustment kit". I don't know what that is, but it sounds like you might need one. It could just be longer rods... does anyone know? | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Very interesting! I'll try extending those rods when I get home and I'll report back whether the seat goes up or down. Right now they're most of the way in, which could be why it doesn't budge with me on it. | ||
| S2pengy |
DJ Yes, but never to my knowledge produced I tried to order one in 95 but no luck... Got longer rods made to lower bike but it was a poor way to do it, there are better ways to lower it.... | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Hah! Thanks Guys! I have the bars set as long as they can (while still showing a couple threads outside each nut for safety's sake) The bike actually moves when I sit on it now!!! Albiet only a quater inch or so, but that's MUCH better than before! The seat height is back down to around where it was when I bought it, which makes me quite a bit more comfortable. March Badness... HERE I COME! |
