| Author | Message | ||
     Spiderman |
Is the original "square" style battery still available for the S1? If so what is the part number stock or aftermarket? Thanks! | ||
| Spiderman |
here's a pic of what the ol' school batt looked like...  | ||
| Blks1l |
Yuasa YTX12BS fits perfectly. I am stating that number off of the top of my head though, I will have to look at the battery to be 10o% sure. | ||
| Spiderman |
could you check for me? all the pics I could find on line look like the standard "updated" battery... | ||
| Rocketman |
In the UK, DMS Technologies Red Top 20 battery is a direct replacement for the original S1 battery. I believe DMS import them from the US in 'kit' form, then assemble and juice 'em up over here. I'm not certain of this but I have a hunch DMS buy the kits from battery manufacturer Odyssey. Where you can buy Odyssey batteries Stateside I know not. I will say this though. The DMS battery is regarded as the best dry cell battery on the market in the UK. That said, don't expect much more than a year out of one if you lay your bike up for a few months of the year across winter. These batteries seem to last longer when in constant use and cycled through a regular charging system. Oh yeah, they ain't cheap either! Rocket | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Tony, Give Al a call, he still uses the square one in his S1. I talked to him today but don't remember which one he mentioned. Brad | ||
| Spiderman |
Al at American Sport Bike? | ||
| Blks1l |
The YTX12-12BS is what I have in my S1, the post are in different positions then the original, but all original cables and mounting hardware work. If you do go with this style battery, I would recomend you service it with acid let it sit one day, then sit it on it's side in the position it mounts for another day. I had some acid seepage after just servicing it then installing it. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Spidey, Yes, I should have been more specific. BJ | ||
| Spiderman |
Not a problem, just didn't wanna email him and he have no clue LOL. Thanks again guys! | ||
| Al_lighton |
Follow this link around....the main link I normally use to get to the place I bought mine (Westco) is broken, but I think its just a glitch. http://www.batterystore.com/Odyssey/BuellBulletin. htm Al | ||
| Spiderman |
That Yuasa number is for the Updated battery size. I need the original size. Does anyone have a yuasa cross refrence chart? | ||
| Rocketman |
I have to say, I'm not a fan of sealed lead-acid batteries when they are laid on their sides or ends. It just seems to me like a poor solution to achieve a wider application of bikes to fit. In short, it's a marketing solution that works because the product is really no more expensive to manufacture than a standard lead-acid battery and as such they are reasonably priced, especially when compared to gel or absorbent glass mat batteries. Of course, a lead-acid battery is not in the same league as gel or AGM batteries, but it is worthy of note that gel and absorbent glass mat batteries are specifically constructed to work in extreme vibration areas and in any position. So, given today's search for performance, and the stringent noise and emissions regulations forced upon motorcycles, the need to find alternative methods and places to mount batteries on motorcycles is really what's brought about the need for sealed lead-acid batteries. They are not designed that way for performance essentially, and as such I would question the suitability of how the more or less standard construction of a sealed lead-acid battery compares next to a gel or absorbent glass mat battery. More so when one takes into consideration the construction of a sealed lead-acid battery is not really about its longevity in extreme environments, but more about a quick fix to allow it to fit into a position where it would normally leak unless it was sat upright. You pays your price. That said, these are just my thoughts. Rocket | ||
| Spiderman |
That doesn't help me get a part number... | ||
| Rocketman |
It might make you change your plan though  Rocket | ||
| Blks1l |
I also looked for an exact replacement for the original S1 battery and never came up with a replacement. That is why I eneded up with that one. As far as the dependability of that lead acid battery sitting there mounted on its side, I would never have any doubt about it doing what it is supposed to. I have run two of them with about 20,000 miles and not had any issues with them, with exception to the first time I put into service too quickly, without allowing all of the acid to be absorbed. Just my .02 though. | ||
| Spiderman |
I found this in the waaay back vaults of Badweb  http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=47909#POST47909 I just hope the UJM shop has it in stock still... | ||
| Rocketman |
Well Spiderdude, I still use the same battery that you see in that old thread, not least of all because the other solutions are like I said back then, "what a mess"  Rocket | ||
| Spiderman |
it's all crap LOL I found one that will fit with a small mod... | ||
| Rick_a |
I used an Odyssey battery for a while. Then I tried the Blast conversion. When it died I cut the battery tray so I can now stick whatever battery I want in there. |
