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Oldog
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 10:30 am: |
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My front iso was in the same condition, I wonder if its as much time related as milage. looks good for sure! |
Naustin
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 10:40 am: |
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I was thinking the same thing: Maybe its time more than miles that is hard on these... I did notice that the new one had different markings on it too. And it was really smooth and clean until I put the torque load on it and then the surface became crackled and what looked to be a protective coating sorta flaked off...
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Oldog
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 12:19 pm: |
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I had a similar experience, the lower half rubber is quite soft as well. Huglysses looked at this issue as he had some problems with his ( he now owns a uly ) I have put about 40 miles on my bike since finishing my repairs the vibes seem to be less. |
Ducxl
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 04:26 pm: |
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Great job Naustin.Good workshop too.I'm very close to being finished as well.Just need to reset my new TPS and i'll be done. My front iso appeared fine,but i replaced anyway. |
Bluzm2
| Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 07:32 pm: |
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Nick, That garage is WAY too clean!!! Brad |
Naustin
| Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 09:25 am: |
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Thanks Ducxl. Don't worry Brad, It doesn't look that clean all the time. lol nick |
Bomber
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 09:38 am: |
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I think our isolators DO deteriorate due to milage (number of vibe cycles) and simple age -- just like a tire will dry rot over time, the rubber in the isos ages and changes, too . . . . . . my first fron iso was toast after three years/35K miles -- but I live close to a major metro area, and I'm sure the air quality had something to do with it -- |
Sleez
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 10:30 am: |
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found this online; http://www.steelthundercc.com/motormounts.html VELVA RIDE® FRONT ENGINE MOUNT FOR BIG TWIN - V Thunder Reduce transmitted engine to frame vibration by 20% just by replacing your OEM front mount with this improved version. The Velva Ride system utilizes a powder coated or natural finish 1/2" thick aluminum engine plate and two separate isolator mounts that are made from a semi-soft Urethane. Installation is as simple as replacing the OE mount and does not require realignment. Instructions are included. Fits all FLT models 1980/Later and all FXR models 1982/Later and Buell models 1991 thru 2002. (Replaces HD 16207-79B & 96210-80). Black or Natural finish. Made in U.S.A. Part#RDS-243609 - Black Velva Ride Engine Mount ... $102.99 including shipping* a bit cheaper here; http://www.legendmcs.com/Engine/engine-motor-mount2.html
and still cheaper; http://www.chopperscycle.com/page/VTS/PROD/41-322/21926 and another with better pics; http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=VT&Category_Code=MNTS
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Naustin
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:20 am: |
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I thought I heard somewhere that these urathene replacements were not recommended for a Buell and that the stock units were the best you could do... |
Firemanjim
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:37 am: |
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Don't bother with them,I tried some of their isolators years ago hoping for a bit less vibes. Made it worse at cruising rpms.Might be because they are "tuned" to rpm range of big twins? Expensive experiment.I had better luck with my fabbed up heavy bar ends. |
Sleez
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:54 am: |
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thanks jim but would they last longer??? would their normal state be better than a torn stock one??? (Message edited by sleez on February 20, 2007) |
Naustin
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 12:05 pm: |
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According to Al at American Sport Bike: Do not use polyurethane alternatives, they don’t hold up. The OEM part is the best you can do. I don't know how he knows that, but I assume he'd just as soon sell you the poly alternative if it was better... Anyway, I knew I'd read that somewhere. |
Sleez
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 12:08 pm: |
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thanks, that should be as good as gold! |
Oldog
| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 01:06 pm: |
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What FMJ and Nick Said! it makes some sense the buell part seems to have a metal embed in it ( besides the sleeve ) |
Al_lighton
| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 09:56 am: |
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Tat had told me that they sold several of them prior to me buying the biz. None of them lasted 1000 miles. I don't have personal experience, I'm just relying on what the previous owner of American Sport Bike told me. Al |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 11:53 am: |
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I tried to fab my own front motor mount for my 1955 Ford (the inline 6 uses three mounts) instead of buying an repro$$$ and found out the hard way that durometer ratings are very important when it comes to resonance of engine vibrations. The rubber I used looked right, but it created an incredible amount of vibration and thrumming at certain rpms. Engineers (some, at least) have apparently been getting the answer right for a long time. |
S2pengy
| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 08:26 pm: |
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Keep in mind the Harley Big Twins that use the same front isolators, the engine sits on the isolator where on a Buell the engine hangs from the isolator so maybe the poly might work better in that situation... |