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Essthreetee
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Should be spewed out into a catch can????

Will it be more if I ride it in the cold??? I commute to work, not far but needed for the smile, and I am getting a BUNCH of white frothy crap (much like the foam on a LATTE). In the mornings it is anywhere from 34* - 40* during my ride. Am I getting normal stuff??? If so, I can't believe that this was just re_directed back into the intake....GROSS...NASTY...

Thanks in advance.

Jason
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WATER CONDENSATION !!!
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Essthreetee
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Soooooooo...is that a yes there will be more in the cold temps....and the amount I am getting out of my bike IS normal????
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From what you have said it is normal ...

"i" took a ride from Tampa to DAYTONA Thursday
which was a fairly cold day for FLORIDA ...
Took off the INSPECTION,cover clutch and it had
some of the "white frothy BUELLschitte" which "i" just wiped it out and put it back together ...

"YES"
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Essthreetee
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK..thanks LaFayette.
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Ryker77
Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sometimes a high oil level can cause an increase in foam.

I run a larger oil filter.. and use the same amount of oil. But less oil is in the oil tank. thus no foam.
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Buellistic
Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone need me to e-mail them HOW TO CHECK YOUR OIL 101 ???

Ljenne73c@verizon.net
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Sloppy
Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Instead of having it dump in your intake, you can route the breather hoses out to the rear next to your transmission breather hose. Connect a filter midway to prevent anything from getting into your engine. Every morning I get a "spits worth" of latte when I start up the bike.
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Essthreetee
Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the hoses re-routed with the filter...The reason I am asking is because I am getting quite a bit of latte. At next oil change (soon) I will be VERY careful to add the exact required amount... I thhink I did last time (but who knows)...and see if that changes it.
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Sloppy
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In my case the oil level makes absolutely no difference. I do notice a difference depending upon ambient conditions, however. Cool, foggy mornings typically make more "latte" than dry, warm days. I'm glad you coined the term "latte", I'd still be using the term "snot".
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine has always puked its fair share from day one.

In the end, I ended up routing it to the street right in front of the rear tire.

And no, one drop per 10 miles is not going to mess with my traction.

I used to route the end of the tube at the end of my ehaust with the idea that it would be blased clear of the bike at speed.

Nope!

It just airbrushes the back of the bike with the slipstream.
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Denfromphilly
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I drain my catch can I don't get a lot of frothy white stuff but the majority of what comes out is water.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's so easy to fab a proper catch-can, there is no reason to vent the breather lines to a simple filter and then out behind the bike (easy, but it never worked well when I tried it). I made my catch can for less than $5 and it works as well as anything commercially available. No mess, no oil getting on the bike or rear tire, and minimal spooge issues.

Look in the KV under "Breathers" for any number of ways to do it. One of the quirkiest uses a tomato can, but I bet it works as well as the high-dollar jobbies.

This is the one area I think Buell riders should show their imagination and fabrication techniques. At the last March Badness, a bunch of us had a great time looking at each others set-ups and marveling at the improvisation. All were different, but they all worked great. I even picked up a few tips on how to make my system even better (thanks Buellish).
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Seth
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You might not be give the motor enough time to get nice and warmed up; warm enough to heat the oil up and cook all the condensation out of the engine and oil.

I'd bet (not that I'm a betting man) that if you were to either take the bike on a nice l-o-n-g ride or just change the oil, your foamy problem would be history.
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Seth
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

p.s.
I made my puke can out of an 11oz. camping fuel bottle; zip-tied to the battery mount strap.
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Benthealien
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 12:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

REPLACE THE SEAL BEHIND YOUR STATOR AND IT WILL GO AWAY
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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

REMEMBER THIS: YOUR ENGINE MUST GET HOT ENOUGH
TO EVAPORATE THE CONDENSATION IN YOUR ENGINE OR
YOU WILL GET THE WHITESH LATTE !!!

ie: on a cold day ride, being an air cooled
engine it will run TOO COOL !!!
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Essthreetee
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ding Ding Ding...We have a winner. Seth & Buellistic must have hit it on the head. I went on a nice Long & Spirited, up and down the mountain ride yesterday...at the top of the mountain I drained my catch "tube" (It was full). When I got home, nothing was in it...after riding back and forth to work today...still nothing.

I guess I just needed to "clean it out"...as my Father-in-Law would put it.
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