| Author | Message | ||
     Djkaplan |
I just ordered a complete Pro Series Race Kit for my 2000 M2 - the header and race muffler, ignition module, and CF filter housing with a K&N element. I understand this muffler has a reputation for breaking and some users have had problems with the header shearing the exhaust studs. What can I do to keep this system from tearing itself apart? I see that Buell sells a Pro Series muffler bracket. Has anyone used this on their race kit muffler? Are there any issues I should be aware of before I install this kit? I've upgraded to the XB PCV valves and rocker covers, so breathers won't be an issue. I'm mainly concerned with the exhaust, but any info will be greatly appreciated. I feel kind of lucky I was able to score the complete kit. | ||
| Oldog |
i cant say form direct experience, in the case of the older coffee can ends its a design issue, there are recalls on the exhaust accessories check the recall thread, IMO, change the studs out from time to time before they burn up or "rust" out, well worth the small expense and time invested, air tools make this job relitivly easy, the Y mount is said to help as well the mounts on the X1 have not been much trouble to date. | ||
| Chasespeed |
With the studs, use some PB Blaster, use it a few times...just let it soak. I have not done this with my own bike yet...but, I have used the product in many different apps, and it works wonders.... Being a 2000, you SHOULD have the upgraded front hanger, shoudl look like a Y, upside down though.. If not, lemme know, I have a brand new sitting in the garage, that is just taking up space... Another thing, as with all exhausts, dont tighten everything down until you have it where you want it.... Hope that helps... Chase | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Like Chase said, get everything on there finger-tight and beat on it all with the heel of your hand to settle it in before tightening it. | ||
| Bomber |
PB Blaster? | ||
| Chasespeed |
Yeah, never heard of it? Its in a yellow and white can, in any autoparts store....its a penetrating oil...BUT, in my experience, it works better than others... Chase | ||
| Ragnagwar |
Bomber, Chasespeed is right on the money regarding the "PB Blaster". I've been using it for years and it works great! I've got a 2000 M2 that I just changed the exhaust studs on. Do yourself a favor and put some "Anti Seize" on the new studs. Ragnagwar | ||
| Ragnagwar |
Chase, I don't have the upgraded bracket either. If Bomber doesn't want it, I'd like to take you up on the offer. Rags | ||
| Chasespeed |
Rag, not a prob...its brand new in the box, I was gonna send it back to Al @ American Sport Bike, but...i figure what the heck... I will locate it when I get home in a couple weeks.. Chase | ||
| Djkaplan |
"I see that Buell sells a Pro Series muffler bracket. Has anyone used this on their race kit muffler?" I'm talking about this bracket, not the updated Y-bracket...  http://buell.com/en_us/bikes_gear/accessories/Product.asp?Menu_ID=2&ProductLineI D=5&CategoryID=1&ProductID=3140 Is this a bracket that comes with the Pro Series Race Kit or a bracket that was added to keep the header from cracking at the collector? Does anyone that responded actually have a race kit? | ||
| Ragnagwar |
Dj, there is a post in the Knowledge Vault under Engine: Exhaust,Muffler that talks about the bracket you have pictured. Sorry, no race kit here. Rags | ||
| Ragnagwar |
Chase, Whenever you get around to it. No hurry here, winter lasts a long time in Chicago! Regards, Rags | ||
| Chasespeed |
I have one of those brackets as well...bought it for my race header, which I never installed.... Chase | ||
| Bomber |
Don't want the bracket, Rags, as I've not race kit exhaust -- I'm also in the Chicago area -- glad to give you a hand if you ever need one -- just sing out! Gents -- thanks for the tip on PB Blaster -- the fasteners on the MaDeuece are pretty workable (I LOVE workin on new{ish} stuff for that very reason) howsomeever, the fasteners on the 31 ford are really busting my chops -- even Kroil, which I've used to good affect for years, is failing in this application -- I'll give the Blaster stuff a try | ||
| Ragnagwar |
Thank's Bomber, appreciate the offer. Rags | ||
| Sloppy |
I have the full race kit(header, filter, ECM and muffler). Best upgrade I made. Here's a few tips: 1. Toss the K&N and get a paper filter unless you want your engine to suck up fine sand. I compared dyno runs with and without and it showed negligble difference. Try the K&N and watch your air box turn into an oily sand ground... 2. Buy a couple of header bracket shoes. Mine lasts about 4,000 miles. You'll see how they break and when they do have them welded up. When you tighten up the headers, tighten up the shoe strap last. 3. Be prepared to repack the race muffler at around 7000 miles. You'll know it's time when it starts to rattle. When you repack, you'll need a hard tool steel drill bit (carbide?) since it uses stainless rivets. Replace the stainless rivets with aluminum ones from the hardware store. After you replace it with aluminum rivets it's a 15 minute job to repack. 4. Put in SE exhaust gaskets in place of the HD exhaust gasket - the HD gasket put a lip in the header which obstructs exhaust flow. While you have the header off, replace the O2 sensor. The race kit does not add any horsepower, but it takes away that awful dip in the midrange. I think the race kit is the best improvement upgrade you can make to the engine. 2000 S3 30,000 miles | ||
| Chasespeed |
Mine lasts about 4,000 miles. Be prepared to repack the race muffler at around 7000 miles Exactly why I am going to the D&D full system, I have the D&D slip on now.. I put way too much mileage on my bikes to worry about repacking... I have used D&D for all my exhausts..or straight pipes... Chase} | ||
| Deltacruiser |
Am I missing something here? I thought the Buell race can did not need any repacking? I know there are two versions, the Supertrapp version with the removable disks and the regular race muffler. I've got the regular race can version. Somebody please enlighten me on this. I hope I don't have a future repacking job to do. | ||
| Sloppy |
I originally had the Supertrapp muffler, but the bolt that holds the internal stack sheared off and plugged the exhaust. So I went to the Buell kit muffler and I've never had a problem. Repacking is very simple - just drill out the rivets from one side, knock off the cap, wrap fiberglass around the pipe, re-rivet. You do this while you wait for your oil to drain from the primary case. There may be better packing available from different manufacturers (I don't use factory packing myself). I'm not familier with D&D's, it wasn't available in 2000, so it may be a better choice for you. The main point about the factory race kit is that it doesn't put any dips in your torque curve. | ||
| Oldog |
the super trapp has packing around a perf core, this opens into a pocket, that the disks fit into. |
