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Blackbelt
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok Badwebbers.. Need help.

My bikes electrical system is on the fritz, my battery will not charge... I have replaced the Voltage Regulator w/ a new Accel replacement... and the stator is putting out voltage, but what voltage should it be putting out (AC) w/ the bike at idle?

someone help me out here. this is driving me insane
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Davefl
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/54010.html?1107789974
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Josh_
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

are you sure the battery is good?
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Tripp
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

here's another link that might help (you may have already read this, but if not...)
http://www.saintjohn.nbcc.nb.ca/marriott/x1/#Electrical
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Blackbelt
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok here is the deal.. The battery was bought on 4-19 LAST MONTH! so i called the dealer that i purchased it from and asked about the battery warrenty.. they stated it was a 6 month warrenty. but they had to test it them selves. So i broght them the battery yesturday (after charging it at my house all night at a 2amp rate of charge) and my wife took it over on her lunch, In which case the battery had lost all of its charge.. FIRST CLUE!!

So they said they had to use their equipment (cause my isn't HD and inferior), and it would take all night, and they would check it in the morning.. So i called this morning right after they opened.. and sure as poo they said It is fine, putting out 13.5 volts, and 500 crankning amps.. WTF!!???!!!

when i first thought it was the battery i took it to Autozone and had them preform a load test on it... IT FAILED!!! then i took it to the dealer and it passed WAIT A MINUTE!!! so i am going there on the way home and before i get it I am gonna have them TEST it again.. if they say it lost its charge and have to re-charge it.. I will raise my RED flag and say STOP!!!!

the battery shouldn't loose its charge in a 6 hour time frame.... get me a new one.

Oh and by the way, the bike runs great when it gets started.. just the battery won't charge...
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Blackbelt
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok apon reading the posted thread i think my stator is HOSED!!! what is the price of that puppy? and would the Service manaul we have in the knowledge vault (96/97 S1) work on my 2002 X1? Not sure if the stator changed in that time frame...
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Drfuyutsuki
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, At 2000 RPM your Alternator should be putting out somewhere between 32-50 Volts AC. Your Voltage Regulator should drop that down to no more the 15 Volts DC.
I am not sure if the service manual will work for you but its wort a go at least to look at.
I picked up a new Drag Specialits Stator from Dennis Kirk for $63 after shipping.

Josh
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I already emailed you some info but here is what my stator looked like when it failed. In actual fact it was not the stator but the little metal plate that holds the wiring in place.

stator1

stator2

Its not a big job and should take a couple hrs and 6 beer (hehehe - drink beer after job is completed please)

When ordering the stator make sure the wire is long enough as different models have different lenght wires from the stator to the plug end.
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Blackbelt
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hay Drfuyutsuki

Do you know what the number of the drag specities part was? cause when i looked at dennis kirk and looked up for a Sportster 1200c it gave me this one

http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp?skuId=H21693&store=Mai n&productId=pH21693&catId=&leafCatId=
wasn't sure if that was the right one
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Drfuyutsuki
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats the one, you may wanna check with a parts department to ensure thats the right HD part number... They may tell you your part is a 29967-89B instead of a 29967-89A but that stator will work for both. Reepicheep made mention in the knowledge vault that there is a distinct smell if your stator fried, its hard to explain but there is a deffinate aroma if you pull you primary drive inspection cover.
You'll need a 1 1/8 and a 1 3/16 nut to pull your drive gears and remember your clutch is reverse thread. (I had to go to sears to get mine, but they're craftsman so I am not complaining)
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Loki
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my recent experience with a battery not charging....

Was the big ground strap from the mount block to the frame being a little loose. Well, way to loose. Acted just like the regulator or stator was bad, cept the bike ran real nice once it was started.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get an Accell stator from Dennis kirk. they cost right around $100 but they have a lifetime warranty!!

(Message edited by buelliedan on May 27, 2005)
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Blackbelt
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well the wife isn't too keen on paying top dollar for stuff like i am.. so i may just get the harley part.. just cause w/ a baby on the way she is really finiky about cash.. lol

but i will see what i can get.

And by the way it is the stator... i did an OHMs test and VOILA FRIED!!! and i know exactally what you mean about the smell.. cause the bike is in my shed (wooden w/ no windows) and i took the primary cover off, and left it for the night came back the next day and WHOAAA that stinks..

smelled like fried trans fluid.. nasty smell.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a spare if you need one---can they be bench tested as I have a couple of unknown heritage?
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't forget to bend the wire hold down clip to prevent future chafing.
Just flair the edges upward that contact the wire.
I put pictures in the KV somewhare a while back.
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Blackbelt
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

will do.. i am working on trying to get the stinking clutch and sprocket/rotor off. this should be fun.. I will get my new stator in the mail today.. i got the Accel one, for like 80 bucks from Dennis Kirk... so we should be in buisness... if i can get the darn clutch/rotor off the freaking bike...lol anyone have any tips on an easy way to get them off? I have the primary cover off, and i know it is a 1 1/8" socket to get the nut off the rotor, but which snap ring to i remove off the clutch? the little one infront of the bearing? or the larger one? or both HELP ME OUT HERE PEOPLES
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BB:
hey man, I have got to ask the stupid question
do you have the diaphragm spring tool?
if not do not proceed with removing the "big" snap ring
if so count it as a stupid question.

pm me this evening if you would like I can forward the fsm info to you on clutch

oh yeah got the super trapp Sweet!

Jim
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

black belt you have mail
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Blackbelt
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hay got the pics.. and THANKS A TON! after a nice phone call w/ spidy, got both nuts in sight (hold the jokes), i will be attemping to use my impact wrench on them today, if not a nice peice of angled wood will do the trick me thinks.. I will keep everyone posted.

Hay Oldog, THANKS again.. those really helped out a ton.

Adam
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Jugallo94
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hurry up tomorrow is almost here.jk.
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blackbelt:
From the porch, you are most welcome,
If you can get one, a small piece of aluminum would be better for locking the chain/sprokets.
Wood may leave shards in places that you don't want shards. My $.02

Work Safe Adam
Jim
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Blackbelt
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok all... Saturday night i got the lighting back on the road and all is well. I ended up using an Impact Wrench.. I forgot i even had it.. worked great too...

I got the bike all back together, started the bike up and WAMMM-O... 35 Volts at idle.. WORKS!!! LOL! but i have a strange rattle from the primary (did i not sinch down the nut on the clutch??) nope i forgot to tension down the primary.. DANG IT!! so i take the muffler back off.. and fix it.. so far i put 150 miles on it and all is well.. So Jugallo I will be there next time.. And thanks to all for your help.. that was an interesting and fun job..
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Jugallo94
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

black belt,

june 18 toledo speedway.
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Blackbelt
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh yeah.. what is the deelio with that day? we racin or somthing?
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Imeazy
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blackbelt - http://www.toledohd.com/
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Blackbelt
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nice... Just not sure if i will enter or not.. but who knows.. i may
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