| Author | Message | ||
     Phatkidwit1eye |
Lord knows I'm not the most gifted mechanic, but this doesn't seem right at all. When I was about to install my new shifter on my X1. I noticed that the bolt that held the shifter to the case seemed a bit weird. Weird as in "The bolt has no threads". Am I going crazy or is this entirely wrong?  | ||
| Whodom |
That's definitely not right; there should be threads on the end of that bolt. You may luck out and find that's an off-the-shelf bolt (make sure you get the right grade, probably grade 8 if you buy one), but I suspect you'll have to get it from Buell. | ||
| Outrider |
Stuff happens and I am glad this one didn't happen to me, but that is down right funny. Hope your existing shifter works until the part comes in. | ||
| Mikej |
If you can at all make it to Homecoming I'd bring that bolt along and ask Erik to sign it. Or better yet you sign it and hand it to him as cannon fodder for one of his regularly scheduled intercessions with the corporate folks. I still recall some somewhat famous quotes of his as retold by certain folks who were reminded to tell a tale at various event interludes off hours. Never anger a man with a raucous ancestry.  | ||
| Phat_j |
yes that is a grade 8 bolt, just go to your local hardware store and pick one up.. | ||
| Court |
If you have any problem getting the bolt, drop me a NOTE and I'll have one in your hands within a day or two. Court | ||
| Bomber |
it has the new "Virtual Threads," which, no matter how much you over tighten the fastener, cannot be stripped! Hardware stores will have it, and you can be in the winds in 20 minutes, rather than waiting -- be careful the one you use (either Hardware Store OR from the Iron Tower) doesn't bottom in the hole before torque is applied -- the bolt that came with my kit did, and snapped at approx 10 ft lbs -- it was MARKED as a grade 8 bolt, but it was in reality grade 0.02, or somthing . . . . . peice of cake, once the right bolt is installed -- oh, and clean out the hole with carb clearner or starting fluid or something, otherwise, even with Loctite, the little dear will un-install itself at a very inconvenient moment . . . . learn from my mistake and make your own new one, yes? | ||
| Odinbueller |
That's a bit freaky! When you get the new bolt, be sure to clean out the threads in the case (2+2, brake clean, or similar solvent) and blow out the residual. Use blue loctite at the minimum on the threads and torque to spec. I had that same bolt walk out on me after other techs put the custom painted chin fairing on the X1 I occasionally ride. | ||
| Mmmi_grad |
LOL THAT IS SO FUNNY. But reminds me of some storys I heard of things going on when AMF was running Harley, kinda scary but these things happen  cheers | ||
| Phatkidwit1eye |
It's been an interesting experience this month getting my bike ready for the summer. I was sitting in my Garage at 4am looking at this bolt thinking what I was doing wrong. Finally I came to the conclusion that this bolt needed threads. I have to run out to the dealer to see if they figured out whats wrong with the bearings on my rear wheel, so I will see if they have one if not I will drop by the local nut and bolt dealer. Thanks for the offer Court, If I can't score one this weekend I'll drop you a pm. | ||
| Mmmi_grad |
you know with the modern qualtiy control standards these days , it would be really funny if he did deliver that bolt to Eric and he tracked down the poor guy that was working 3rd shift on that VIN number. HEHHE. Id be more than angry if I did this to someones bike. | ||
| Koz5150 |
That is actually a bolt for a factory race team. It matches the slick tires... | ||
| Newfie_buell |
I'd try a big hammer to get that puppy in the correct spot!!! - Make sure you use some epoxy to help seal it up real nice!!! Tap gently as you may scratch or marr the surface. | ||
| Raptor |
I know who made that bolt. If it has an LE stamped on the head(most of the time), Me or 2 other people made it at Lake Erie Products in Frankfort IN. I am a boltmaker there and it came from my machine. What happens is that sometimes it skips the roll dies(thats what rolls the treads on the bolt)and when you make 250,000 a night(12 hour shift) then some get past Q.A. I would keep it they are rare, But I can get them all night. | ||
| Phatkidwit1eye |
"Some get past Q.A" LOL,I know how that works.If you ever get your credit card statement with out a return envelope...I...err...Q.A. missed that one. Just ask your neighbor when he gets his mail cause he probly has it. Funny thing about this whole situation, I ended up finding the right bolt after checking 2 different HW stores. Last week I had lost a bolt for my body work and decided to dig in my box O'bolts. I had bought a box of bolts that basicly had every bolt and nut from an X1 a guy was parting out. I forgot I even had the box until last week. Sure enough...there was the bolt I needed sitting right on top. Oh well..At least I have a spare. | ||
| Bomber |
you are gaurenteed to finds what you need in your garage within 2 days of purchasing a replacement -- works ever time! | ||
| Whodom |
There needs to be some kind of "Murphy's Law" type rule that says something like: "The only sure way to find a lost item is to purchase a new one. The lost item will be immediately found after purchasing the new one." | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Raptor, Any way a guy could get onf of those "cool" bolts? Neat conversation piece. Brad | ||
| Seth |
About the torque on the bolt...(assuming it has threads  ) when I installed the X-1 shiftarm assembly on my S-1, the torque value seemed way too high. Am I just too cautious or is 27-29 ft/lbs of torque a bit high? | ||
| Seth |
Hey, Guess what fell out of my bike last night? The same bolt in question  Some days, you just can't win. | ||
| Koz5150 |
I think I used locktight when I replaced mine. I don't remember if I used Blue or Red though. | ||
| Bomber |
locktite, for sure -- that bolt is supposed to bottom in the case -- I used blue- no problems for 3 years and some miles when I used the torque value in the instructions that accompanied the kit, the bolt snapped about halfway to the specified value (seems HDI needs to talk to the supplier, eh?) -- sourced a grade 5 hardware store bolt, hit it with loctite blue, and installed it to the german torque value (guddentite) . . .. | ||
| Patrickh |
mine rattles loose occasionally, I keep a 1/2" wrench with me at all times | ||
| Blackbelt |
I have Used blue Loctite for that same bolt, and No problems... and at one point mine did work loose that is when i started to use the loctite... Works like a charm | ||
| Denfromphilly |
Can I hijack this shifter post? Do you get the clunk in and out of third gear on your 99X1? Has anyone tried the new shifter "pawl" is it smoother and/or worth the money and time to install? How about the new short linkage? Thanks Den 99X1 | ||
| Seth |
Anyone know where to find a replacement outer shifter mounting bushing/spacer thing? It seems not only did the bolt work it's way out, it took the spacer along with it. It's part number N0616.01A1. If anyone is walking down Mass. Rt.3 and finds it, please return it to me!  | ||
| Phatkidwit1eye |
DEN... The new shifter pawl is a good upgrade. I did mine when my tranny coughed out the old style one(along with that crappy black clip). It was nice til my shift pins pushed out again. I ended up buying the baker smooth shift kit and it was worth every penny. I haven't had a chance to try my new shifter yet. I Keep finding things that need to be replaced.  Seth..What spacer are you talking about? Is it the metal mushroom looking one that goes between the primary and the lower fairing? Try asking Daves(in the sponser section) he might be able to get you one. If not I'll dig around in me "Box O'Bolts" I could have sworn I saw one in their. That is, if we are talking about the same thing. | ||
| Seth |
Yo Phats, The inner one is the mushroom looking one that fits between the case and the fairing. The flying saucer looking one that seats against the inner bushing and is mounted between the chin fairing and the shiftarm itself.   | ||
| Seth |
...I'll give Dave S. a call in the morning to see if it can even be ordered. If these things have a habit of working their way out, it might be a good idea to stock up on a few  | ||
| Phatkidwit1eye |
If I can find it in the mess I call my garage I'll snap a pick of it this weekend. | ||
| Seth |
I ordered a new outer shifter mounting bushing/spacer thing (part#N0616.01A1) from Dave S. in Appleton. As always Dave,THANKS!!! When I get the new spacer, I am going to my local machine shop and have them make me up a dozen of the little bastards. I figure that will be the guarantee that I never lose one again |
