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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the general consensus on the cooling fan that Buell sells for the tubers? Is it a good investment or will I just be wasting 200 bucks or so?

thanks
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Azbueller
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just do this...



I seen this done to Pro-Thunder Buells, they run two fans one that blows between the cylinders and one on the rear. And a heck of a lot cheaper!!
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Jreichner
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you speaking of the fan that could have been purchased through Buell? If so I thought that its purpose was more for city driving. I know that when I used to drive to see my parents, I used to hit a spot in the city in which traffic slowed to a crawl. This is when I could have used such a fan.

In short, I think that it would be useful but it depends on your needs.
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Wrong36
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i live/ride in chicago... and i could use such a fan for my 01-X1... who sells em ? thanks.
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P0p0k0pf
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The cooling fan on the buell website indicates X1 fitment only... will it fit other tubers?
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Bikecraz
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell offers two different cooling fan kits, one for the X1 and the other for the S3.My experience with the fan was not pleasant. Who ever Buell is outsourcing these cooling fan kits from lacks quality. I ordered the S3 kit but received an X1 kit. The markings and part number on the box indicated for a S3 but it was for an X1. After convincing the parts counter employees that the company packaged the wrong part – they order me another. The second time around I did receive the right kit. However there were problems; missing bolts, screws that were not machined, and clips that would not fit. And I’m talking about a factory sealed product that I was the first one to open it. I think you will be better off improvising.
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Whodom
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Azbueller- what kind of fan is that? P/N, price, etc. Thanks in advance.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Azbueller - Whodom beat me to the punch. Do you have any info on that improvised (....I mean self-engineered) fan?
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Akbuell
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Living in central Florida and often riding in traffic, I fit the fan to my X-1. There were occasions where it did come on.
My experience was very good: the kit was complete, the parts fit well, the instructions were clear, and virtually invisible (w/the stock scoop and airbox) when finished.
The most interesting part was how often the fan came on AFTER parking the bike and walking away. Seems to be a lot of residual heat in there; the fan really seems to help.
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Azbueller
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is a 12v fan I picked up at Radio Shack along with wire, toggle switch for the dash and fuseable link all for about $20!!!
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Whodom
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sweet! I will definitely be checking into that.
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Bubabuell
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a shame that the engineers couldn't design an engine that won't overheat standing still for less than two minutes. Of all the air cooled bikes I've owned living in So Cal in the summer heat I've never had a problem with over heating in traffic. Until I owned a Buell S1.
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Whodom
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sure they could have, they were probably just limited in what they were allowed to do at the time. The XB engine took care of the problem.
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Whodom
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To those of you interested in trying Azbueller's fan mod, I talked to a buddy that's a real computer geek, and he says standard computer cooling fans are 12V DC. So, if you've got an old 286 (or 386 or 486 etc.) languishing in the back of a closet somewhere, go grab the fan out of the power supply. It'll work nicely on your Buell.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How can you tell when your bike is overheating? I live in Georgia where the summer temps hover around 100 sometimes and I don't think I've had a problem with overheating on my M2.
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Bubabuell
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pinging. My S1 would ping quite a bit when hot.
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1313
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Buell auxiliary fan kit was created due to issues experienced with the Japanese DDFI bikes. Due to the riding style in Japan (sitting a long time in traffic) and the poor fuel quality, the fuel would actually boil in the mainfold. While the auxiliary fan kits solved the problems for the Japanese bikes, and shooting cooler fuel into the engine may help to cool the engine a bit, it may not be the best ends to meet your goal. Azbueller's improvisational solution may be a better end to the means. Plus it is a lot cheaper too.

The fit up problems with the kits could most likely be due to the fact that each kit was originally designed with different clamps for securing the bracket to the respective frame (S3's had one style and the X1's had a different style). Both were existing Buell part numbers at the time of the creation of the kits. Somehow it was determined (maybe for ease of kitting the parts) that using only one style of clamp would be a better solution. There is a slight difference (thousandths of an inch if I remember right) between the distances of the screw hole position to frame tube centerline between the 2 clamps, so it was decided that no revision was needed to the bracket.

1313
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Buell_brener
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where does the Buell Aux. fan mount. From the picture on the Buell website it looks like it goes in one of the cooling cowls.
I don't have them anymore due to Forcewinder and CF accents.
It would be nice to help control the heat up when you come out of a run through the country into a stop and go situation.

Thanks for any advice.
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The fan attaches to the stock horn mount. The kit includes a clamp to relocate the horn.

Before you mount any other type of fan, you should make sure that it is rated for wet applications. Unless of course, you never plan on getting rained on.

The fan is not designed to cool the engine, as 1313 indicated. It blows directly on the intake manifold. (Stock item on Japanese Buells) It does blow air over the engine in the process, and does help to cool it, but that is not why the fan was made available. I have one on mine, and I think it makes it much more drivable in heavy traffic.
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Carguyinok
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At what Temp. outside are you getting into overheating in traffic? I live in Oklahoma and it can get on the warm side in the summer.
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Carguyinok
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl, What controls the fan? Dose it just stay on when your bike is running?
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Outrider
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fan is controlled by a bi-metal switch that attaches to the front cylinder head. For more info, check the X1 Files. The have a PDF version of Buell's installation instructions under the heading "Cooling Fan."

Here's the link...

http://www.saintjohn.nbcc.nb.ca/Marriott/x1/
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Chopperboy
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my '02 S3T, I installed a manual switch to operate the fan only when conditions require it. With the XB rocker boxes installed, the bi-metal switch cannot be used due to the shape of the top cover. I wonder what type of a switch the XB's use to activate their fans??
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The XB's probably use the engine temp sensor. The ECM controls the fan.

The fan on the tubers was an afterthought, hence the afterthought temp sensor.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

chopperboy - I'm going to do the same. I will wire it direct to the battery through a lighted switch somewhere on the dash.. I will not go through an ignition relay because I want to run it with the bike off. The lighted switch will be a reminder that the fan is running and hopefully avoid dead batteries.
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a computer fan under the scoop on my x1
I used the neutral light signal to turn it on and off, one thing you can expect is when the fan runs in traffic the inside of one of you legs will get hotter than hadies!
when I removed the plastic blisters i did away with the fan most computer fans are brushless, and the good ones are ball bearing. the local "shack" can provide an assortment of pc fans

can any one tell what the specs on the factory unit are? ( current and air flow rating )
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im going to try and get a price on these items and then see if I can find a fan that will fit, also if someone here has the kit and can post the name of the maker of the fan and any specs of it like model number that would be cool. Im sure I can find a cheaper place to buy this or another fan than the dealer. But hopefully the dealer wont be too bad on the parts here:
BUELL X1 COOLING FAN KIT MINUS THE COOLING FAN Y0050.K

QTY PART# DESCIPTION
1 y0052.k THERMOSTAT SWITCH
1 y0051.k HARNESS COOLING FAN
1 yoo15.k FUSE 5 AMP
1 R0052.K THERMOSTAT BRACKET
1 R0051.K STANOFF FAN BRACKET
1 R0050.K FAN BRACKET
4 DN0800.2CZ 8/32 NYLOCK
2 C0529.KA CLAMP 17
1 C0529.B CLAMP 17
2 C0217.K SCREW 3/8 - 16 X 3 /16
4 C0121.K SPACER BLACK NYLON
2 63858.49 WASHER FLAT FIBER 1/4X 5/8
2 BA0409.1Z WASHER FLAT 1/4 X 9/16
4 AN0810.3CBL BUTTONHEAD SCREW 8-32 X 1-1/4
1 AA0514.3CBL BUTTONHEAD SCREW 5/16 X 1 - 1/4
2 AA0406.2CZ 1/4-20 X 1 SCREW SOCKET HEAD
2 AA0406.11CBL SCREW TRUSS TORX 1/4 -20 X 3/4
1 Q0115.0 CLAMP FUEL LINE
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