| Author | Message | ||
     Tres_wright |
Well I dug the catch can out of the tail to empty it. Everything was done right on this bike, but this thing has got to go  It's a plastic bottle that someone poked two holes in. The hose from the breathers goes into the hole on bottom of the bottle, then there's a vent hose coming out a hole on top that was just laying in the tail section. This may not make sense without seeing it in the bike, the bottle lays flat so the "bottom" and "top" of the bottle are really the two ends. For some reason there's black electrical tape wrapped around the bottle AND the bottle is painted black. The hoses aren't secure, they're just stuck in the holes. No wonder it's leaking. As you can see, there's no filter on the end of the vent hose coming out of the bottle. As you might expect, there's residue inside the tail section where oil is blowing right through the bottle and out the vent hose. Nice! This WILL be fixed as soon as I can find a suitable replacement. I like the catch can I see on American Sport Bike, but 130 bucks for something that hides in the tail section may be a bit steep   | ||
| Tres_wright |
By the way, I was surprised to find there wasn't much stuff in the bottle as it looks like it's been there quite a while. It was zip-tied in place. I doubt the guy I bought it from (the second owner) even knew it was there. He didn't know much about the bike; he bought it, rode it a few months on and off and sold it to me. He didn't so much as change the oil in it. Bill, thanks for the link! I actually found that site before this one and followed the link to here. I missed the whole breather section though, but I'm reading it now. | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Tres try Jegs or Summit and check their import cars sections as they tend to have the smallest catch cans I have seen. | ||
| Sgtbuell |
Them Jegs catch cans aren't nearly so expensive either. | ||
| Reepicheep |
That is not that bad a solution, the previous owner did nice work. I suspect the fancy catch cans will work to about the same degree. You will always catch some sort of oily mist out of them, so wherever they end up is a little messy. After much flogging of the issue, I just ran the single hose that joins at the T from the two breather bolts and ran it around the FRONT of the engine, down along the cases, through the shock eye, and let it dangle out behind the shock. You can't even see it unless you know where to look. In theory, this runs the risk that a catastrophic engine failure of some sort could burp some great big glut of oil onto the back tire, loosing traction. But I had an oil filter spin off, which did drop a tremendous amount of oil, and most of the right side of the bike was totally drenched in oil before traction became an issue. I don't think there are many failure scenarios that would cause massive amounts of oil to be pumped out the breathers for any length of time. You have the exact same risk from a primary seal failure as well currently (been there, done the 360, did not drop the bike ), so unless you are running a belly pan you are already taking a risk not unlike this. In theory, you should have a filter on the end. But in practice, so long as you have even a little bit of umbrella valve in the head, you will always be moving a LOT more air out them then into them, so I don't how dirt could work its along almost 4 feet of hose up a two foot vertical before being shot back out with the next stroke. IMHO, YMMV, etc... | ||
| Nevco1 |
Tres...Keep us posted on what you do concerning the catch can. I did the Jazz can thing behind the left cowl as posted here in the Knowledge Vault and later picked up by the X1 Files. Works for me but not for you as your bike does not have the cowls. Ergo, you will probably either hide one in a dark recess nice shiney one out for all to admire. That is the reason I asked about it in the first place. Was wondering where it was hidden on a custom bike like yours. Check the Knowledge Vault for more ideas. The one Reep mentions is well documented and you can apply it easily. I did something like it but had the outlet with a K&N filter located below and behind the right footpeg. Most of the time it worked fine. However, I ended up cleaning the rear tire and wheel a lot. Ergo, Reep's routing is a much better alternative. Just a suggestion, but you may want to mount one in the same location as the one you just removed and simply relocate move the drain valve via a length of tubing to a lower point that is easily accessable. Have a great day! | ||
| Tres_wright |
==That is not that bad a solution, the previous owner did nice work.== I've got all the receipts for the bike and it was apparently a Harley/ Buell dealer (in Washington) that did the intake installation, and presumably the catch can too. It's not horribly bad, but it was done in such a way that it is difficult to remove the bottle to empty it, and the holes for the hoses are too big. I like the idea of having it hidden away, so I'll probably replace it with a can that mounts in the same place but has a petcock on it. I'll run a hose from the petcock nipple to some obscure location down around the front of the swingarm so I can stick the hose in my oil dump and open the petcock to drain it off w/o removing the can. Sounds good in theory anyway The Jaz can looks perfect, now I just need to find someone that sells it! Thanks again for all the advice, you guys are very helpful! | ||
| Ftd |
Tres, I have one of the American Sport Bike billet catch cans. It is mounted where the horn was originally. It tended to mist a little out of the KN filter so I moved that down near the exhaust outlet. Frank  | ||
| Ftd |
A closer view  | ||
| Tres_wright |
That's a great looking ride Frank, and nice job on the catch can! I was on the prowl for a black/ nuclear blue Thunderbolt when the X-1 snagged me. The Thunderbolt will join the stable some day though, oh yes it will  | ||
| Nevco1 |
Whoops, thanks for the reminder. I forgot to ask where the horn was relocated to. I never use the thing but I know it is required by law. Thanks in advance for the insight! | ||
| Bomber |
the horn can bve persuaded to fit behind the flyscreen . . .. . . easier is you have a smaller one hanging around in a parts box, but the stocker WILL fit there | ||
| Ftd |
I relocated my horn to the area just left of where the catch can is now. You can barely make it out on the first photo and it is just out of view in the close up. Frank | ||
| Bads1 |
Spyder when you had to rotate that brake line did you then have to bleed the front brake???? | ||
| Spyder12s |
I only loosened it enough to swing it like 1/2 to 3/4 of an in . so to answer you r question no I did not bleed them but it probably would not hurt. | ||
| Spyder12s |
here is the Hillbilly tail that I got today  | ||
| Misato |
nice | ||
| Spyder12s |
Thanks Misato, I know its not your style. I am going for the opposite of yours, I do believe trying to get rid of everything shiny ..  , But hows your bike coming anyway ? get all that polishing done yet ? | ||
| Nevco1 |
Thanks for the Horn tips. To quote the infamous Disco Diva Donna Summers... Toot toot, hey, Beep Beep! Ok, I've lost it. When is the riding season going to get here??? | ||
| Misato |
the frame is the only thing left to do.. I haven't had it sense nov.. waiting at the dealer for the FORCE pipe replacement | ||
| Spyder12s |
Better pic  | ||
| Spyder12s |
with the light on  | ||
| Spyder12s |
 Kellermann's | ||
| Bigfanof6 |
I'm REALLY getting the winter blues at this point. Thought I would share a couple of pics from my '03 road trip. It's my summertime pictures that get me through through the winter...    | ||
| Glitch |
BadWeB the early years  | ||
| Reepicheep |
Boy. Those PM wheels really class up the Cyclone. | ||
| Ferris |
BadWeB the early years from left to right: Blake, Ferris, Court, and Erik... | ||
| Kevyn |
Found this sitting in a warehouse...  De-tuned for gas, they're going to fire it up Feb 21st!! edited by Kevyn on February 07, 2004 | ||
| Glitch |
My grandad used to have one of those! | ||
| 1320 |
Her name is "Special Blend"...after the blend of parts that make her "Special" to me. Originally built in 1999 after 3yrs. of collecting the parts..1983 Sportster frame cradle, 1995 Buell S2 motor, wheels, frontend, and more. She is now getting an updated wardrobe..before and after on the way...    |
