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     Hootowl |
No, you are lying. See how easy that is? When you make an assertion and are contradicted, back up your claim. That is how debate works. | ||
| Tpehak |
You need the list of the infrastructure facilities Russia built in Crimea since Crimea joined to Russia? You can Google it. You want to find out that Ukraine did nothing in Crimea prior this time? You can Google it too. You also make huge mistake if you think Russia will allow you to bring back the Ukrainian nazis terror to that land and took all those nice things Russia made for the people live in that land. (Message edited by TPEHAK on September 05, 2024) | ||
| Hootowl |
The number of structures has nothing to do with whether the Ukrainians want to live under the thumb of the Russians. That they are fighting a war over it should be a big clue. | ||
| Tpehak |
Crimea did not fight against Russia. Donbass and Lugansk did not fight against Russia. Half of the Ukrainians ran away from Ukraine since 2022. Huge number of Ucrainians run through the Tisza River to Romania. The Ukrainian nazis have to hunt people on the streets to force them to fight for them. People in Odessa and other cities resist to the Ukrainian nazis burning their cars and shooting them. The Ukrainian nazi desperately trying to return the Ukrainian people who ran away from Ukraine to force them to fight for them. You clearly have no idea what is happening in Ukraine. (Message edited by TPEHAK on September 05, 2024) | ||
| Tpehak |
Here is a quite recent case, the Ukrainian nazis raped a person in Odessa because of he refused to fight for them. And the Ukrainian nazis do not even hide it, they themselves posted it their social network.  | ||
| Hootowl |
Projection, which is typical of the left. Russians are leaving the country in droves to avoid conscription. You sure love to accuse others of not knowing what is going on, but you sure do not seem to either, even in your motherland. | ||
| Tpehak |
Russia has open border and anyone can freely leave Russia if the person wants to, and very small amount of people left it. The Ukrainian borders are closed, the Ukrainian nazis prisoned the people inside the country and they can not leave it at all, hell, there are Ukrainian snipers enforce the Tisza river to prevent their people from running away, and even with such enforcement the number of Ucrainians ran from Ukraine is huge. So you are comparing not even close things. | ||
| Tpehak |
Canada has to release 900 names of Ukrainian nazis ran to their country. That's gonna be quite embarrassing for them. https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-wa tch/releasing-names-alleged-nazi-war-criminals-can ada-could-embarrass-federal-government-bureaucrats  (Message edited by TPEHAK on September 05, 2024) | ||
| Hootowl |
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-draft-flee-bo rder-1.6597416 | ||
| Hootowl |
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66388422 15 years in prison for not showing up when conscripted. Cannot cross the border if you are in jail. | ||
| Tpehak |
Can cross the border if you are not conscripted. The fist link you posted shows exactly it. Russia is free country, you can cross the border and go wherewer you want. Ukrainians do not have such premium. And even they do not have such premium they find the way to run from Ukraine. Millions Ukrainians left Ukraine even with the brutal restrictions the Ukrainian nazis set in Ukraine. (Message edited by TPEHAK on September 05, 2024) | ||
| Tpehak |
You make huge mistake if you think Russia will allow you to assist the Ukrainian nazis to spread the hate and terror on the land Russia freed from them. They eliminated quite an amount of the Switzerland and US military consultants in Poltava without a hitch. | ||
| Hootowl |
It is not up to me. However, I think Russia should have kept its promise to not invade Ukraine if Ukraine gave up its nukes, which they did. Since the US is a signatory, it makes it difficult to ignore Russian aggression. Yeah, Russia really stepped in it when they invaded. | ||
| Tpehak |
It looks like you are not aware that there was another agreement besides the nukes. That agreement was that Ukraine will keep sovereignty and they broke that promise so your statement is not applicable. Are you aware what happened in Odessa in 2014? Looking on what you post here I doubt it. And there is no Russian aggression, Russia defends the groups of people in Ukraine the Ukrainian government failed to defend and to represent since 2014 compromising the sovereignty and allowing Russia legaly invade the country to defend the Russian people in Ukraine. If you feel opposite and think that you can descriminate and terror a group of people in a country then here we go, there is no sovereignty and Russia has all the legal rights to defend those people. It is funny how you are not OK with terror and discrimination of Jews in Germany and are OK with terror and discrimination of Russians in Ukraine. Well, the bad news for you is Russia will not allow the nazis to exist anymore. (Message edited by TPEHAK on September 05, 2024) | ||
| Tpehak |
Let me put it this way. Imagine you are a Jew living in a big powerful Jewish country bordering with Germany in 1933. Imagine you have an agreement with Germany government and other countries that you will not invade Germany if Germany will keep sovereignty. Germany in 1933 has huge number of Jews living in the country. The Germany nazis start discrimination of Jews in 1933 and therefore Germany lost sovereignty because of discrimination of a group of people and lack of representation of that group of people in the Germany government (the Jews). But you do not invade it to defend the Germany Jews even you have all the legal rights to do it because of you care about what other countries will think about your actions as about aggressive actions. So you decide to let the Germany nazis to do what they want to do with the Germany Jews thinking that nothing bad will happen. Well, you know how it ended, the Germany nazis murdered 6 million Jews. Russia will not allow the Ukrainian nazis to murder even a single Russian person anymore. And Russia acts completely legally defending the Russian people in Ukraine. And Russia does not care what you think about it or what you tell about it. If you feel it is OK to support the discrimination in Ukraine to keep the Ukrainian nazis to act against Putin or against Russia nobody in Russia is going to sorry about your fate if the Ukrainian nazis or your government will make something stupid so Russia will have to nuke you. (Message edited by TPEHAK on September 06, 2024) | ||
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| Aesquire |
Gee, you think ongoing mass murder by Putin's forces bombing civilian targets and the kidnapping and rapes by Putin's forces might be a factor? | ||
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| Tpehak |
The person attempted to assassinate Trump is pro Ukrainian nazis.  | ||
| Aesquire |
Bought your yard sign yet? Or would it endanger your family? Democrat Soviets are viscous and amoral. | ||
| Tpehak |
Russia freed Ukrainsk from the Ukrainian nazis! | ||
| Crusty |
So what? | ||
| Aesquire |
Nazis freed Ukraine from the Soviets! Pity about Patton. ( allegedly auto accident, not assassinated by the Soviets ) He urged rolling the Soviets back to Moscow and freeing all of Europe and Russia. Missed opportunities! | ||
| Tpehak |
And then the Soviets freed Ukraine and other countries from the nazis. And also the Soviets freed millions jews from nazis and saved them from being suffocated and burned by nazis. And also Russia will not allow nazis to burn people animore after the Ukrainian nazis burned people in Odessa in 2014. (Message edited by TPEHAK on September 18, 2024) | ||
| Aesquire |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes Firebombs on both sides. Still a pity about Patton. | ||
| Tpehak |
That's not the point. Have you ever asked yourself why the Ukrainian nazis never investigated this accident? Have you ever asked yourself why it happened at all? Have you ever asked yourself why the Ukrainian nazis blocked the building exits when the fire started and killed the people who tried to escape the building with baseball bats? Have you ever asked yourself why the Ukrainian nazis prepared the fire bombs in advance? Have you ever asked yourself why the Ukrainian nazi who murdered Marking with baseball bat is free? Have you ever asked yourself why the Ukrainian nazis did it? Have you ever asked yourself why Wikipedia lies? Have you ever asked yourself why they call the defenders of the Ukrainian constitution and Ukrainian sovereignty pro Russian activists? Have you ever asked yourself why they keep calling people separatists while the Ukrainian constitution was compromised and there is basically no Ukraine anymore after 2014? I know you probably hoped Russia will let the Ukrainian nazis to do what they do but that's was a very stupid idea to support the Ukrainian nazis terror and hope Russia will let it be. Well, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. (Message edited by TPEHAK on September 18, 2024) | ||
| Aesquire |
No one believes Vladimir, because he's using the Same Excuse of the Nazis to conquer foreign countries. And Russification started under the Romanovs. Nothing new to the propaganda, no reason to believe Fundamentally Dishonest regimes. While this drastically undercounts the murdered, it's a start. https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MEGA.HTM Now, I'M aware it's more nuanced than that, but repeated threats of mass murder of people who have nothing to do with Barack Obama's Treason to Mankind, and Joe's* puppet government, just makes more people determined that by the 22nd century more people will read Cuneiform than Cyrillic. | ||
| Tpehak |
Nobody asks you to believe Vladimir. Name me the persons who burned and killed the people in Odessa and who was prosecuted? It looks like you would be glad if the same happened in Crimea and Donbass. Well, that did not happen because of Russia defended Crimea and Donbass defended themselves from such disaster. (Message edited by TPEHAK on September 19, 2024) | ||
| Aesquire |
Why would I be glad about any terrorism against civilians? That's rude and slanderous. Hezbollah and Vladimir shoot missiles at schools and hospitals and apartments. That's terrorism. True, Vladimir doesn't hide in hospitals like the Judean Jerks, he's got his own bunkers protected by anti missile defense and equipped for Armageddon. Blowing Hezbollah testicles off is as targeted and focused on preventing innocent casualties as it gets. |
