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     86129squids |
Hey all- here's another one I'll have to throw out to the Badweb Collective. I'm thinking about getting M a geneaology test kit for her birthday. However, what I've learned about them in general leaves me with waaaay too many questions. My #1 concern is privacy. How would one ensure one's privacy with these processes? Cost is a factor, as well- I doubt these services are exorbitant, but I intend to get my money's worth if I decide to do this. If anyone has knowledge or experience with this stuff, let's begin a discussion. I may have said this before- other than the great friends I've gained through BadWeatherBikers, one of the most valuable things here, to me, is the immense wealth of knowledge that we as a group possess. It is truly a thing of wonder. Again, I thank you all in advance. If I can arrange such a gift for my beloved, with your help, I'll always be grateful. As I am already for so many things I've come to know over the years knowing you all. I truly love this strange mind we all share here. OK, enuf from me. Please commence discussion, posthaste. | ||
| Teeps |
This could be an interesting thread. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I've watched plenty of crime tv shows to know her DNA Profile will be in a data base that the PO PO have access to. SOOOO.... if she has a family member that has committed a crime and left DNA behind. They may come calling. | ||
| Macbuell |
Supposed to be completely confidential ... but somehow people end up getting arrested based on that confidential DNA sample. | ||
| Needs_o2 |
Just do it! | ||
| Aesquire |
Mom does Ancestry dot com. They have ongoing updates as more samples come in. She likes it, and there's a family tree optional database so you can fill in gaps and that's open to members so your third cousin can enter his stuff, etc. If you've ever had a blood test for your Doctor then the DNA stuff is already on file somewhere. It depends on where you live if the State Legislature chose to violate HIPPA federal privacy laws, and nothing you can do about it. I assume the FBI already broke the law. I just assume Vladimir and Xi can access everything anyway. Like Hillary's mail. | ||
| Teeps |
Good point Aesquire, about putipute and Xi. The down side (only if it matters) is finding you that you are not what you've been told you were... An aunt did the test and found that she was <50% of which she was told all her life to be 100%. That makes me even more of a mutt that I thought... | ||
| Sami |
I took 9 different DNA tests and here's what I found https://www.livescience.com/63997-dna-ancestry-tes t-results-explained.html Quote: "I view these things as more for entertainment than anything else," Stoneking said. | ||
| Tq_freak |
The down side (only if it matters) is finding you that you are not what you've been told you were... An aunt did the test and found that she was <50% of which she was told all her life to be 100%. That makes me even more of a mutt that I thought... This is very True, My Uncle took one of these and then figured out that he was only 50% my uncle if you catch my drift. He is my moms brother, Her and her 4 other siblings all took one and realized .... em one of these things is not like the other. My grandparents have been gone a while so we will never know 100% what was up but all us nieces and nephews thought it was funny. | ||
| 86129squids |
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| 86129squids |
Needs 02- I may just do that... why, though? Sami- why didn't you go for a baker's dozen? 9?? Your comments lack credibility. Patrick- as it has been asked, in perpetuity, please refrain from POLITICS. Geez. My OP goes only to a serious fact-finding mission, asking those here to advise helpfully. I've wanted for years to arrange to have her DNA tested to discover her lineage. It may very well prove out to be wildly impressive. With youn's help, I hope to accomplish this. Thanks again for your helpful information. | ||
| Aesquire |
You asked about privacy. It's the 21st century and that's an illusion. It's possible that "we analyze your DNA" companies sell your data to Lex Luthor and the Illuminati, but I don't think that's an issue when there are tissue samples on file with your insurance companies and hospital mega corporations. Who has access to your Doctor's and Insurance company records? Which are theoretically illegal to access? Foreign agencies for espionage and blackmail... The CCP has a gigantic hacking and infocrime group of agencies, who were reported to back the Federal Government Employees database. Russia, probably England and New Zealand? And Social websites are open to searches of every silly thing folk post, from kitten memes to political rants. And while bad/evil cops, judges, DAs, & AGs Absolutely Exist ( and go on to Higher Office, like the former NY AG with a kink for prostitutes or the CA AG who hid evidence to prosecute innocents. ) I doubt your SO is their target. Hope not, me & you too! None of the above is meant to impose my political views. It's meant to assure you that an Ancestry company is probably the least of your privacy concerns. (Message edited by Aesquire on June 22, 2021) | ||
| Aesquire |
Btw, DNA showed a surprising percentage of Spanish. See Spanish Armada... Funny... My Father, Mother, her Sister and daughter, and me... All worked as Lifeguards at some point in our lives. Descendants of good swimmers? | ||
| Two_seasons |
I'd venture a guess of Cuban heritage...  | ||
| Kmbuell |
Why would you give them your real name or email? There are many ways to spoff an address and at least make it slightly more difficult to find you. My wife and I did Ancestry a few years ago, No surprises on my part, but she had a few. I'm still just and Irishman with a tiny bit of French Canadian. Trying to get the brothers to do it, youngest brother has to be somebody else's kid. | ||
| 86129squids |
LOL! KM, that's the best endorsement yet! Cost(s)? Of course I could just go ahead and look at their sites, but... ... ...    | ||
| Rick_a |
I think it's good for purposes of curiosity. Anyone whose identity is in any way associated with what they think their ancestry is...I just think that's sad. Who cares? You're either generally nice or generally an a hole. I am of the latter variety  | ||
| Patches |
Endless Genealogies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGhGk9LYuUE KJV Bible... 1 Timothy 1:4 - Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. Titus 3:9 - But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. There is only one race of Humans under God. | ||
| Hootowl |
Context. Titus was not Jewish. Many teachers at the time thought their opinions were superior since they could demonstrate that they were descended from Abraham. The point of that verse is that your ancestry has squat to do with whether you’re right about something. Seems people were appealing to authority even in biblical times. So go ahead and get those dna tests. The bible was not admonishing us no to. On the other hand, this is a silly argument.  | ||
| Aesquire |
Ancestral pride is ok, as long as you realize that you didn't climb that mountain, conquer that sea, or build that Empire. OTOH, you didn't sell those slaves, burn that library, or oppress that civilization, either. Where you draw the line between, "Cool, my ancestors did X!" and "I'm obviously your natural master since My Race Is Awesome" can be important. Don't reach too far, eh? | ||
| 86129squids |
Well, Hades and Chaos called, we've got politics and religion, and ... Dammit another thread gone to Jesus and then Hell. i appreciate you, Rick. Patches, do you have a mouth? | ||
| Daddio |
Squids-- My wife was adopted as a very young child, and a few years ago had some very serious medical issues that turned out to be of a largely genetic origin. I bought her the Ancestry DNA kit, and since, has discovered quite a few siblings and cousins of whom she wasn't aware. She was contacted by someone with, IIRC, second-cousin genes, but it turned out the their mothers were half-sisters who each had had several partners over the years. Also, 23andMe will take one's raw data and match it at no cost; my wife discovered that her biological father had apparently been looking for her shortly before his death. My assessment of these types of tests is that they can prove valuable, in situations like my wife's; in other words, go for it! | ||
| Rick_a |
The entire concept of races in humans is a farce, originally credited as a French political concoction...but these days political science is confused as actual facts and scientific study. It is interesting to find out what parts of where you came from. These days more and more people are muts...more than they likely realize. Speaking of...my girlfriend recently DNA tested one of our dogs...which turned out to be a mix of some one dozen breeds. Nobody could hazard a guess what he was. | ||
| 86129squids |
I'm about to head to bed with my Dominican, one severe cross breed dog, and one dog that doesn't bark. Sweet dreams to all. | ||
| Hootowl |
Dogs are incredibly genetically diverse. Someone from another planet might believe a great dane and a poodle are different species. They don’t even have the same kind of fur. But it’s all in their genome. Mom and pup are more genetically dissimilar than you and me. “You” means anyone on the planet. | ||
| 86129squids |
I like you. |
