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Greg_e
Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2020 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've decided I want a lift table, and space is a bit of an issue. Has anyone used the Kendon stand up lift tables? I'd need the 1000 pound version for my Harley. https://www.kendonusa.com/collections/stand-up-fol ding-motorcycle-lifts/products/folding-cruiser-mot orcycle-lift#new-folding-model

The storage space is about the same as I need for my current jack, and the jack only works well on my Harley. The others don't have full bottom rails, and I never did make an adapter for the Buell muffler.
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Tootal
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2020 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the same one that's in your link. With my long legs I can ride up on the lift but getting the bike off takes two people. The front tire gets wedged in the ring and makes it hard to back up with a full dresser. Other than that I love it. It raises higher than other lifts and is pretty stable. Once down you can pick it up and roll it next to the wall and it takes up an area of about 3 ft. wide and a foot deep. I also got the optional jack that sits in the runner to raise it for tire changes etc. Like I said, getting the bike on isn't too bad but getting it off is hard by yourself.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2020 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kendon makes pretty good stuff, I had one of their trailers and it was high quality.
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Buellish
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2020 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a Kendon trailer also and the quality was really good.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2020 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I may have encountered a problem. I don't think I have a full bike length of room behind where I'd need to set the lift up. Need to measure before I go farther with this idea. Might be stuck with a jack.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 02:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Measure twice, buy once.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Measure and modify might be the way to go forward. But they don't have measurements on their website, waiting for them to get back to me.

I really don't want to start the transmission output shaft seal on a jack. Even all the way up this is going to break my back by the end of it. And if I need to get into the transmission, the jack will be in the way.

(Message edited by Greg_E on December 14, 2020)
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Jayvee
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not a table exactly, but in use, this lift takes up no more space than the motorcycle itself. It stores pretty compactly as well. I have the red version, for an M2, pretty happy with it. It has multiple lift points possible, depending on if wheel(s) are coming off or not: https://www.webbikeworld.com/bike-lift-easy-rizer- motorcycle-lift-stand/
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine is standing up at the moment but it has three sections. The main lift with a folding and removable section and the ramp. You can remove the folding section to remove the rear wheel if it's supported by a jack under the frame. So the unit is 76" long. The folding section adds 25" and the ramp is 24". So basically 10 1/2 feet long. The ramp removes before you lift so it takes up just under 8-1/2 feet once the bike is on it.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. 10.5 feet is a couple feet too long to get the bike up. But I'll measure tonight. I did request the dimensions from Kendon, including the amount that the platforms moves forward when it lifts. Trying really hard to find a way to wedge this into the space available.

I thought about the EasyRizer, it would work but storage is a lot bigger.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fender to tourpak is 8 feet, I have roughly 20 feet between walls. No moving start to push almost 1000 pounds up the 4 inch incline.

I also won't have perfectly level ground under the lift rear wheels, but I could figure something out.

What's the smallest electric winch I can get that has some sort of remote control? Then I can drag it up the incline and maybe shorten the ramp.

Still thinking, have to put more thought into this before I drop $1000. I probably better measure the ceiling and make sure I can lift it to one of the safety stops, ceiling is around 7 feet.

(Message edited by Greg_E on December 14, 2020)
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Shoggin
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can get a 110VAC winch for removing Jeep tops really cheaply and then just levitate the bike to the rafters? Fun!
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1313
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Piņata party!

; )
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2500 or 3500 pound 12 volt winch at harbor freight. Mount low left and hook left foot peg. How I used to load trailer with bike.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yup, HF have one for $60 and then I could use it on the mini trailer too. Amy idea how many amps the 2500 pulls at load? I went through about 6 pages of reviews hoping someone would mention it.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't remember if I ever knew. I just had a car battery dedicated to it.
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Shoggin
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They pull surprisingly little amps.

I run that tiny HF 12V ATV winch off a 12V Milwaukee cordless tool battery without issues. It's on a portable crane I made. Theres better/cheaper winches like that on Amazon that come with synthetic line. The HF cable frays really fast.

Even the tiny batteries will do 20+ full power pulls. I 'modified' one of those Milwaukee USB adaptor things as a battery holder/connection but you lose the low voltage cut off and you'll ruin a Li-Ion battery if you draw it all the way down. so charge up after 20 uses or so.

I also have an electric bike I run off (2) 18V Rigid batteries I had left over, LOL.
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On the trailer I used the winch for on and off the trailer. Safety first!
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Greg_e
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, yes the poly line would be much better than a metal cable for this task so I'll take a look. And good suggestion on the tool battery power, I have lots of 18 volt Ryobi stuff I could use.
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Greg_e
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Decided I'm going to wait and see if they have any discounts around the holidays. They had 15% off for blackfriday, might get a first of the year special or something.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It should not move forward at all when it rises. The front has feet, the rear has rollers.
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Greg_e
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The table part slides as the scissor closes up, you can see small slits in the sides in the photos. Also this video of the current model: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnrNQPh5Moo&ab_cha nnel=RetroTech%26Electronics
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Tootal
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good video and it has changed since I bought mine. The channel is now upside down from mine which I like better. It will be easier to get a jack under the frame and you don't need to buy their jack which fit in the channel. The safety catch on the front hinges from the top, mine hinges from the bottom, so I have to manually lift it into position. Not a big deal. Everything else looks basically the same. It sure was easy for him to unload a FXR with no engine or tranny and a narrow wheel up front. Not that easy with a full dresser with it's fat tire. The loop for the front tire is slightly too narrow for the old MT 90 16 tires. I really need to modify mine...someday.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, yes the poly line would be much better than a metal cable for this task so I'll take a look.

Dyneema.
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Greg_e
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, I thought it was a good fair review of the table in that video too. If the stock MT 90 is getting stuck, then I might want to modify it too. Do you think the hoop could simply be flattened slightly with a big hammer, just enough to make it oval.
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2020 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Possibility. It goes in and out of the loop but when removing the bike it rubs just enough to make it tough to get started. If I stand on the ground and pull the bike hard to the rear the whole lift slides on the ground. If I mounted some footboards to the channel so my weight would be on the lift instead of the ground it might help.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2020 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of these under the front tire with a longer hose should pop it out.


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Greg_e
Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2020 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The airbag is a good idea.
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Tootal
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2020 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hook one of those to my air compressor with a remote valve on it. I could shoot me and the bike right into the street!

(Message edited by tootal on December 20, 2020)
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2020 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are they made by Acme?
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Tootal
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2020 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2020 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any air wedge. I mainly used them for cars with the keys locked inside. There are lots of other uses for them.
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Greg_e
Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was thinking about this today... Assuming a winch to pull the bike up, you could put an eye hook back behind the front wheel to loop the cable around, and then pull the wheel out of the chock. Just keep spooling it out until the side stand can be used after the bike if off the lift again.
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