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     Blake |
The mail-in fraud transpired in large predominantly Democrat populated cities. The machine vote tabulation fraud targeted predominantly Republican precincts, the higher the proportion of Republicans, the more the algorithm flipped votes from Trump to Biden. Dr. Shiva, MIT professor demonstrated that though voting pattern analysis. Ingenious. But anyway, to catch that you have to audit those predominantly Republican precincts. You won't find it in the Democrat precincts. Not so easy, is it? | ||
| Court |
To date . . . . And I’m trying to keep an open mind. . . . I have yet to see an iota of proof. Lots of wild story book conspiracy theory. Reminiscent of George Bush and his cult affiliation. I’m eager to see how these allegations play out in the many Courts in which they are filed. Again . . . I’ve an open mind. Rudy is not a good front person. He looked like an unhinged nutcase sweating and rambling on yesterday. From an entertainment perspective I’d like to watch Rudy debate AOC . . . . You couldn’t scrape this whole gang together and make one cogent person. The process, rather than a person, has become the national embarrassment. Interesting to talk to former Badwebbers from far away lands and see their perception of the USA. We certainly . . . As I have long said. . . . Deserve better leaders. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I agree, Court...but look at the unfortunate pool of individuals from which our "leaders" are chosen. And, with the state of our "educational system"...that bar is only going to get lower, and lower, and lower... | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/a-c onspiracy-so-immense.php Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is that statistically unrealistic results are because of cheating. The Klan Party has a well documented history in the last several elections of Party officers caught & admitting to vote fraud. The Abolitionist Party also has a record of fraud, prosecutions from the last election. ( although they seem to lack the arrogance to brag about it ) So there is Zero doubt fraud was committed. None. The only question is "was there Enough Fraud to change the results?" & the multiple cases of interference with observers, undocumented ballots, and identical percentage dumps at 4 am. Make that a hard point to prove. While also making it obvious. My Opinion is that States that register illegal immigrants to vote ( well documented in New York and California ) have violated Federal election laws and shouldn't have ANY Electoral College votes. Since those are the Gorilla States in Authoritarian Rule and 100% for the Klan Party, it's a textbook example of the Reason We Have The Electoral College. I realize that's unrealistic and don't expect any judge to so rule, & my opinion on illegal immigrants voting is an outlier. It's the freaking Law being broken to the tune of literally millions of illegitimate votes, but the current precedent is they get away with it, so screw me. However, ballot harvesting is proven fraud ( the last CA elections for example ) and nearly impossible to prove the actual numbers of changed illegally votes. Because that's exactly what it's Designed to do. So any State that allows fraud in untraceable form like ballot harvesting has negative credibility. Combine that with refusal to recount, audit, or cooperate with observers, and you have a situation where the normally fallacious logic "if they aren't cheating they wouldn't resist examination" really seems to apply. I don't know anything about Dominion, the Illuminati, or Yogsothoth? other than sound bites of pundits. Pizzagate turned out to be either utter fabrication or the pedophile dungeon was closed and sanitized the day after the story came out. I don't want to be the sucker who while brave and well meaning, went vigilante to save kids that weren't there. & went to jail. Was there a kiddie dungeon for the D.C. Elite to enjoy their rape? I dunno. I Do know that if I ran one, I'd be smart enough to both move the sex slaves and erase the dungeon's existence the instant rumors of my blackmail Emporium hit Facebook. What idiot wouldn't? I'd also be very subtle about keeping my blackmail material backed up, offsite, and not pushing rich powerful men to have me murdered. I'd want to be too dangerous to cross, AND too easy to live with & useful to eliminate. Unlike Epstien. Who sure as the sun rises didn't kill himself. So... I get that Court won't buy into the crazy claims. Might be bogus. And I earlier warned that the Democrats were spreading crazy claims for the purpose of discrediting reports of real crimes. I have zero doubt many of the crimes are real. Which specific ones? We may never know. | ||
| Aesquire |
Furthermore, If election fraud is proven and the fraudulent votes thrown out AND the Bad Orange Man wins, I understand that Democrats will be unbelievers in the results, just as I don't feel any reason to believe them. The Party has spent the time since the Gore Campaign tried to steal Florida ( fun fact, recount shows Gore lost ) casting doubt and claiming fraud in every election. While both accepting wins unquestioned and rejecting Enemy claims of fraud. After decades of indoctrination, why would you accept an Enemy victory? You've been told not to 24/7/365 All Century! Rachel Maddow Said So! But remember, Leftism is an induced mental disorder that requires it's victims/members to hold contradictory views to condition them to manipulation and ignore obvious facts. Hypocrisy is not just ignored, it's mandatory. A great example is Planned Parenthood. Wanting to not use tax dollars to support genocide of black babies ( as it's founder bragged about ) is Racist! I'm pro-choice, but I'm not that brainwashed. So in the unlikely event Trump won the election, ( which many think he did ) I can predict serious Sh%$storm Action. Duh. Easiest prediction ever, since they Say they will riot & openly plan it. I also predict cold weather this January in Western New York. And that record cold will be called Proof of Global Warming. And Hillary won't be prosecuted for her openly admitted crimes. And life will be unfair sometimes. And... | ||
| Aesquire |
https://spectator.org/trump-concede-hillary-clinto n/ | ||
| Ratbuell |
Personally, I don't care if the ballot count changes enough to change the outcome or not. If fraud exists in the system that IS our system of government (and let's face it, the concept of voting IS where our constitutional republic gets its power), then that fraud needs to be cut out and destroyed. Now. We don't let cancer have a pass, until it overwhelms the body, do we? No. We go after it as soon as we discover it, in order to preserve the body. This, needs to be the same. Change the result, don't change the result, it doesn't matter. Fraud is fraud, and it should not be tolerated at all. Period. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
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| H0gwash |
Yes, the fraud need to be found in order to prosecute those behind it, whoever they turn out to be. The legitimacy of the presidency is paramount. So far, inconsequential fraud has been found and it looks like they have been prosecuted. The hand count audit of GA results found numerous polling place miscounts in GA but did not have a substantial effect on the original result. I have been following the court cases, the notable absence of concrete evidence makes them frivolous. It is a tale told... full of sound and fury signifying nothing. Edited for wrong word choice (Message edited by h0gwash on November 20, 2020) | ||
| Ourdee |
From an entertainment perspective I’d like to watch Rudy debate AOC . . . . You couldn’t scrape this whole gang together and make one cogent person. You are killing me Court. I am stealing that. So in the unlikely event Trump won the election, ( which many think he did ) I can predict serious Sh%$storm Action. Duh. Easiest prediction ever, since they Say they will riot & openly plan it. All I have to say is, "Long Live The Republic!" (Message edited by ourdee on November 20, 2020) | ||
| Ratbuell |
order to persecute those behind it Actually, you can persecute anyone, anytime. No requirements to insult or harass people. If you want to PROSECUTE them...that's when you'll need evidence. Significant difference. And yes, it matters. Even on an internet forum. We, as a nation, are getting sloppy as hell with our language, our educational system, and our belief set. And we wonder where all the problems are coming from.... Build a castle on a foundation of sand, and guess what happens? Maintain a nation with a population of lazy, uneducated people, and guess what...? | ||
| Zacks |
Maintain a nation with a population of lazy, uneducated people, and guess what...? Ever see the movie: Idiocracy? (youtube it) That's your answer. | ||
| Ourdee |
Joe, I left him alone. He used what I deemed the proper word in the next sentence. So, thinking about what he may be trying to convey, I considered that I don't care if lying, stealing, cheating people are persecuted. I whole heartedly agree this nation is being lost because of lazy ignorant people that think they know it all. All this being said, I thank you for pointing out to me the error of the first sentence. Persecution is not hinged on any factual act being needed to base it on. | ||
| Pwnzor |
https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-team-outlines- path-to-victory_3586818.html?utm_source=news&utm_m edium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-20-2 | ||
| Court |
Fun times. Nice to see Rudy “practicing” law for the first time since 1978. My bet is if Trump were serious he’d have hired real lawyers not a former Mayor and a writer. | ||
| Ratbuell |
It looks like the campaign has real lawyers, in Ellis and Powell (and I'm sure plenty more). I'm guessing Rudy is more a figurehead/public face/spokesperson, who happens to be a lawyer. Pure speculation on my part. | ||
| Aesquire |
I luv the "I haven't seen the evidence!" dumb. Are you the Judge? Jury? They get the evidence not the public which would contaminate the Jury pool. It goes to the courts and legislators. Not the mob. You release the "evidence" when you're trying for a mistrial. | ||
| Court |
You’re likely right. . . . Putting him out in public to blather about conspiracy theories ad basement was likely just a poor decision. They found a couple thousand more votes .... looks like they need about another million and they’re home free. | ||
| Ebutch |
biden sniffen china  Only people in socialism that are Rich are politicians! (Message edited by ebutch on November 20, 2020) | ||
| H0gwash |
The judges and lawyers are not getting evidence of fraud either. Trump is waging two very separate battles. The Twitter war is about public opinion, he does not need evidence there, and outside the courtroom he is not bound by the truth. On Twitter, the Democrats have stolen the election, the polling machines were hacked by Venezuela, massive fraud! Very dramatic things!! The courtroom battle is about much smaller things, inconsequential numbers of absentee ballots, common voting irregularities, how close can observers observe? Can't you just be a pal and give the election to Trump? From the Wall Street Journal: "Under questioning from judges handling the cases, at least two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers have backed away from suggestions that the election was stolen or fraudulent." In the courtroom, lawyers are bound to the truth and there are consequences for perjury so the arguments in court do not resemble the war on Twitter. | ||
| Ducbsa |
More truth than all that Russia BS. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/a-v ast-international-leftist-conspiracy.php Trump's lawyers have to prove an unprovable. That the lies and fraud exceeded a certain number based on the fraudulent count. After all, the fraudulent votes were unboxed AFTER the cheating didn't work and they knew how many boxes of fake votes they needed to win. We know there was fraud. We know there was a lot of fraud. We know the people that committed fraud are liars and they insist there wasn't any, so shut up you racist. So there is Zero reason to believe either candidate won. And every reason to believe the people that Tell You to Do As You're Told aren't participating in a Republic, they're ruling a Kingdom. I didn't swear a loyalty oath to the Crown. | ||
| Court |
Sydney will need to get past the martians made me do it defense. This is from Forbes . . . . A pretty . . L traditionally . . . Conservative view. https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/11/20/w ho-is-sidney-powell-meet-trumps-new-top-conspiracy -theorist/?sh=53c489ed1f9d I listened to part of that 1 hour 45 minute circus and served their purpose poorly . . . More of a “ my dad can whoop yer dad” rambling and blathering marathon. If, in fact, they have evidence . . . You know the kind of stuff you use to prove something . . . a good time to have rolled it out would have been about a week ago. Clock’s a tickin’ | ||
| Ratbuell |
Trump's lawyers have to prove an unprovable I disagree. Trump's lawyers have to prove there was fraud. Period. In my mind, if they can prove that the process was corrupted, it should invalidate ANY result. Once they prove fraud, there is absolutely NO WAY to prove one candidate or the other, won. You're right - it is unprovable. Which is why the actual vote count should not matter as far as these proceedings are concerned. Prove the system was corrupted, and it should all be null and void. And time for a re-vote. Manual. On paper. In person. 50 states. ONE set of rules: photo I.D., signature match, legal citizen, in-person ONLY. If you can roll your ass to WalMart, with your oxygen tank, in your motorized chair, to stock up on Doritos and sodas...you can drag your ass to a polling station to vote. Period. Trump's lawyers need to impeach the PROCESS, not the RESULT. The rest (at least in a RATIONAL society) should follow suit. Baby steps. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/t he_trump_teams_real_strategy.html I'm not this optimistic. Manual? Absolutely. No computer chips from China get to tally votes. Period. On paper? Absolutely. If you can't lay hands on the paper for a recount, it's imaginary. In person? Uh. I'm all for it, plus absentee ballots requested by actual voters on the rolls, and Verified by a bipartisan group. But you'll not get mandated in person voting in the worst medical crisis since the last bad flu. Never mind numbers, facts, reason. It's a panicdemic and you can't change that with Democrat Party Propaganda instead of actual free press reporting. As to photo ID? The official Party Position, in real English, is that the Party Dependent Plantation Peasants are too stupid to bother to get ID. Never mind that contradicts reality and everyone they claim is an inferior animal already has multiple government identification cards if they are on any kind of public assistance. Simply, if you think they are capable and responsible, you are Racist. It's a Mantra of Holy Writ. The day that systemic and systematic racist creeds reality is finally grasped by brainwashed minds, is the day there will be real consequences. Until then? ID interferes with stealing elections, so... ( they'd say Shut Up. I say keep yelling. ) | ||
| Ratbuell |
But you'll not get mandated in person voting in the worst medical crisis since the last bad flu. Never mind numbers, facts, reason. It's a panicdemic and you can't change that with Democrat Party Propaganda instead of actual free press reporting. Then you don't get to cast a vote. Period. I'll say it again - if you can roll your ass to WalMart to get Doritos and cookies, you can go vote. And judging by the parking lots at WalMart, Lowes, Home Depot, Target, and all the other big box stores...people sure as shit are NOT afraid to go "out" in the middle of the "worst medical crisis our country has ever seen". Nevermind the riots....er, peaceful protests. Voter I.D. should be self explanatory, and not even a topic here. You need I.D. to LIVE in this country - no matter what you do or where you go, you're gonna need an I.D. card. The most important thing you can do for your country? Should ab-so-god-damn-lutely require an I.D. card! Whoever wants to, can get in my face about any of this. I'll stand my ground and prove them wrong. Whether or not they're mature enough to admit it... | ||
| Aesquire |
Old folks homes? There are a few still alive in them even in Cuomo slaughterhouses. I'm Not saying you are wrong on voter ID. I'm saying their excuse is Racist propaganda, and they were winning that argument. | ||
| Needs_o2 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WSDObSrKTc Thoughts on this? | ||
| Ratbuell |
Homes have field trips to stores, and parks. Take one to the polls. If they don't want to do that, have a family member (also with I.D.) come in and take charge. 3rd party observer is fine, but get someone with a vested interest in the well-being of said old person. Or at least, someone with power of attorney for them, to make sure things are on the legal up-and-up. This is our NATION, not a trip to the corner 7-11 for a bag of chips. If we treat it like it's "nothing", then people will think "it's nothing". It's IMPORTANT. And, it needs to be treated as such. | ||
| Pwnzor |
you can drag your ass to a polling station to vote. Amen. Once every two years covers all the important stuff. I can show ID at the liquor store on a daily basis, but it's racist if I have to show it biannually at a polling place. |
