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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

During coronavirus pandemic people travel less and make less pollution reducing global warming.


Actually...no. It hasn't.

What makes the breathtaking, planetary-scale transformations wrought by the pandemic so unsettling is that none of it registers in the biggest picture. The photographs of clear skies, the charts of falling emissions, the change in daily behavior by billions of people—none of this will slow the dangerous pace of global warming.

The level of CO2 in the atmosphere, which drives our warming temperatures, has been rising steadily by an average of almost 2.5 parts per million a year since 2010. A significant cut in new emissions from 2020 won’t improve this all-important metric, now at 414 ppm. Even a 10% drop in emissions from this year would still translate to an increase of 2 ppm in the CO₂ count, according to estimates by Pierre Friedlingstein of the University of Exeter.


Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-how-corona virus-impacts-climate-change/

Multiple other articles here:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=has+coronavirus+shutdown +helped+global+warming&ia=web&iai=r1-0&page=1&adx= prdsdc&sexp=%7B%22v7exp%22%3A%22a%22%2C%22sltexp%2 2%3A%22b%22%2C%22prodexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22prdsdex p%22%3A%22c%22%2C%22biaexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22wiadr k%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22langexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22liap m%22%3A%22a%22%7D

that speak to the same conclusion.

In other words...we (humans) are not causing global warming.

It is cyclical.

Like tides.
And day/night.
And summer/winter.
And everything else on this planet. Just...on a larger scale / longer timeframe.
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Tpehak
Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So there is nothing we can do about it and we are basically doomed to be baked on this planet.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We start full building occupancy where I work on the 14th. We're rotating work from home in shifts, currently.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No.

Look at history.

Look at data.

DO NOT look at books, or political stories, or opinion pieces. Look at planetary temperature data. It rises and falls over millenia, like tides.

Roman Empire? Warm period.

Black Plague? Cool period.

See also the Global Warming thread - there are plenty of links, articles, and references there.

WE have zero control over the planet. WE are insignificant. To think differently, is arrogance on a grand scale. The planet does what the planet will do, based on its own internal rhythms, based on cosmic push/pull, and based on forces that are LARGER than it is - not forces SMALLER than it is (i.e. human beings).

Like George Carlin said - the planet will shake us off like a case of fleas when it gets sick of us.

But...temperature swings are only on the order of one or two degrees. Whatever happens...we won't "bake". We'll just get less snow. For a while. Then, the cooling cycle will kick in (remember "next ice age" / "global cooling" threats from the '70s?), and we'll get more snow. Again.
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Tpehak
Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We actually can destroy the planet using nuclear weapon, we can even crack the planet or change the planet orbit around the sun using nuclear power, so we are significant.
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Sami
Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can we?

https://www.livescience.com/32120-can-a-nuclear-bl ast-alter-earths-rotation.html

We cannot turn the Earth into Heaven and we cannot turn the Earth into hell.
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Tpehak
Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Coronavirus already turned the Earth to hell and coronavirus is human designed virus.
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Sami
Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't worry, it's made in China so it won't last long.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 04, 2020 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...change the planet orbit around the sun using nuclear power, so we are significant.

Not so much.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054790/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059065/

All the bombs we have, applied in the most suicidal manner, might render us extinct,

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137/

but spin the Earth off into the void? nope.

Any belief in your significance is probably /strike{delusion}illusion. ; )
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Ebutch
Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Court
Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Coronavirus already turned the Earth to hell




Hahahaha......we keeping you from an Optimist Club meeting or anything?
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


maskkids1



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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





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Tpehak
Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Finally a good reason to wear a mask

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Bandm
Posted on Wednesday, September 09, 2020 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2020 - 04:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/09/is- covid-hysteria-all-about-the-election.php

Like the Canada joke.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2020 - 05:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/the-lefts-r eaction-to-woodwards-coronavirus-scoop-is-revision ist-history/
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2020 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

" I wanted to keep it for my book but it would have been “unthinkable” to keep it to myself if I thought there was a public health hazard, so there’s no public health hazard."


https://pjmedia.com/election/victoria-taft/2020/09 /10/bob-woodwards-own-reaction-shows-his-big-trump -virus-scoop-is-total-nonsense-and-it-gets-worse-n 916465
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2020 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/09/a _tale_of_two_covid_treatments.html

The conclusion any sane person would come to is that it's more important for Leftists to Rule than life itself. Your life. Theirs is vital.

Inconvenience is fine for thee. But as we see from Chris Cuomo & Nancy Pelosi, not for them.

I'll skip Nancy and her hair being more important than yours. Or the laws made up ruin the economy.

The Governor's Brother got sick, violated quarantine, got his family sick, lies about it all, so he's a great example.

Not of humanity. Of selfish evil.

The plague will vanish when Democrats Rule.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2020 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://xkcd.com/2355/
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2020 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/09/la_co untys_public_health_director_says_what_we_suspecte d_about_the_lockdown.html

...when Democrats Rule.

Love the SNL skit. Go! Max!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2020 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...I miss my pug....
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, September 11, 2020 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)







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Tpehak
Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2020 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are smoke fume particles smaller than coronavirus particles?

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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2020 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes.
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Nobuell
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2020 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tobacco Smoke Particle size are .01 to 4 microns. Soot is about the same range. Viruses are .005 to .3 microns. Viruses generally are smaller than smoke particles depending on the combustion product.
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2020 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So it looks like face mask can help to stop fire smoke particles.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2020 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No. Non n95 masks do not stop viruses so they won’t stop smaller smoke particles either. If they did, firefighters would just pull their tshirts up over their faces, and not bother dragging around scott air packs.
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Nobuell
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2020 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

N95 average filtration is 95% of 0.3 micron particles.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, September 14, 2020 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Non n95 masks do not stop viruses

Hmmm.....does the CDC know that?

\sarc=off
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