| Author | Message | ||
     Hootowl |
Texas stay at home order ends May 1st. I’m going to have lunch at my favorite Indian joint and dinner at The Republic Grill. | ||
| 86129squids |
Hope you tip BIG. Got Ethiopian? | ||
| Tpehak |
Seattle restaurants are back in business on May 4th. It is time to make coronavirus great again! (Message edited by TPEHAK on April 30, 2020) | ||
| Aesquire |
I'm type O negative I'm A positive. Type O seem to be resistant, Type A most likely to catch this coronavirus.  Figures.  That's statistical, and relative, not absolute. Don't go visiting New York City and kissing the mayor. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://9gag.com/gag/azmgXjx super karen! ( Dragonball parody ) | ||
| Crusty |
"Well; I'm a little Negative about the Positive; but I'm Positive about the Negative!" - Curley Howard | ||
| Crusty |
I just want to go to Velvet Smoke and have Burnt Ends! | ||
| Sifo |
It looks like there may be 2 people posting who have a clue what's going on. If you think I'm cowering at home, afraid to go out, well, that's your business. Freedom comes with responsibility. It's not about bravely facing the invisible virus. It's about the fact that you are stupidly spreading it to others. You folks seem to revel in the fact that it spreads asymptomatic, completely ignoring that this is one of the big problems in getting it under control. Blake still hasn't even tried to answer how the curve has flattened, despite the flawed, yet glorified studies make it clear that we are nowhere near herd immunity levels. You want freedom to act stupidly, and endanger your own lives? That's fine. Rights do have limits though. You can be arrested for shouting FIRE in a crowed theater, just as the classic example. Your rights end where you recklessly endanger others. You complain of the government that will use this to erode your rights. You are also pushing their hand to do exactly that. "I don't care if people die" makes for a lousy campaign slogan! You are handing power to the exact people that you don't want to have power. Blake, it's funny you claiming that the meat department having empty shelves id because of the news "I" watch. I'd love to see the scientific evidence of that. Until then, I'll stick with the more obvious likelihood of a broken supply chain where too many workers are calling in sick to keep the slaughter houses open. BTW, I see we've passed the high end of estimated seasonal flu deaths. In only half a flu season too. That's what you get with a virus that is both more virulent and more deadly than flu. There is evidence that this virus isn't going to be seasonal. I'm not really convinced either way. Time will tell for certain. Stay ignorant folks! | ||
| Two_seasons |
Sifo, been keeping up on this thread but hey, lighten up! I have never seen you post such negativity. We are adults who have made it through some really tough times in our lives. Most people here will only remember your negative comments when all is said and done. Sincerely, Steve  | ||
| Ratbuell |
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| Crusty |
I'd like to see scientific evidence of why toilet paper disappeared when there are no indications that the Wuhan virus causes diarrhea. But the shelves were certainly empty. And now, the News is touting an upcoming Meat Shortage. That should get all the "Useful Idiots" to panic and buy, buy, buy! That way, tons of meat will go bad in various hoarders' inadequate storage and will go to landfills. When that happens, voters will subconsciously blame Trump for their being hungry and malnourished, especially since the media will endlessly push those claims and offer "Evidence" as factual and honest as the Russian Collusion claims. | ||
| Sifo |
I'd like to see scientific evidence of why toilet paper disappeared when there are no indications that the Wuhan virus causes diarrhea. But the shelves were certainly empty. As people stopped going out, and stayed home more, they dump at home more. Have you ever noticed when you go out someplace, they often don't have the TP you get at home? There's an entire supply chain devoted to the needs of commercial consumers. Single ply, lower quality, different packaging, different delivery, etc. The supply chain for domestic consumption simply can't respond as fast as the demand changed. No doubt there was some hording as the supply chain got stressed, but that's reaction to the broken supply. | ||
| Crusty |
No. Toilet paper disappeared before the Stay At Home orders were in place. People were panicked into hoarding it without thinking it through. I think the same factors are in place, but with meat as the targeted commodity. I'm seeing a classical example of "Control the Information and you control the People". I had the H1N1 virus and was extremely ill, but didn't die (obviously). I don't think the Wuhan virus is as deadly, but the fears have been fed by a media who loves to distort the facts to meet their agenda. And their agenda, at present, is to prevent Trump's re-election. | ||
| Hootowl |
The meat situation is not the same as the tp situation. Meat is becoming scarce because the processing facilities cannot operate at pre-covid19 levels due to staffing shortages. That’s not the press making this claim, that’s management at the companies processing our food. Will that lead to panic buying? Almost certainly, but panic buying is not the cause of the shortage, it is a result of the shortage. | ||
| Sifo |
No. Toilet paper disappeared before the Stay At Home orders were in place. People were panicked into hoarding it without thinking it through. I think the same factors are in place, but with meat as the targeted commodity. I'm seeing a classical example of "Control the Information and you control the People". I had the H1N1 virus and was extremely ill, but didn't die (obviously). I don't think the Wuhan virus is as deadly, but the fears have been fed by a media who loves to distort the facts to meet their agenda. And their agenda, at present, is to prevent Trump's re-election. I'm sure it seems that way if you weren't watching closely. It's a bit like the guy driving down the road looking at his phone, when he hits a guy that "came out of nowhere". https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/04/08/co ronavirus-shortage-where-has-all-the-toilet-paper- gone/2964143001/ https://grist.org/video/how-coronavirus-creates-em pty-shelves-and-toilet-paper-shortages/ https://abc11.com/charmin-toilet-paper-stock-in-sc ott/6127754/ I think a good question might be, why did I know this before you posed the question? | ||
| Aesquire |
Herd immunity won't happen for months. Why even talk about it? Silly. Not until there are mass preferably voluntary vaccinations, OR everyone has had it, do you get anything resembling herd immunity. And I'm guessing from the anti-vax idiot example of California, with measles, that the whole concept is stupid. Nothing will protect stupid people's kids from immigrants and disease, except vaccination. Yes, vaccines will kill some. Sad but worth it overall. That's no consolation for a grieving parent.like Oh, and leave me out of "you guys" as you vent. | ||
| Court |
Whatever. . . . . The reason that P. C. Richards sold 700+ freezers in a weekend in East Hampton. If it looks like it’s going to last longer than a year ....somebody let me know. I live next to a farm tha5 grazes, raises, Slaughter’s, dresses and has freezer service. The meat deal is a temporary . . . And predictable . . . Glitch in the serial order as we move through this. Can’t buy a Ferrari or a T-bone . . . . When has that happened I. History? | ||
| Sifo |
Sifo, been keeping up on this thread but hey, lighten up! I have never seen you post such negativity. We are adults who have made it through some really tough times in our lives. Most people here will only remember your negative comments when all is said and done. Sincerely, Steve Well we all remember things differently. I do remember trying to get things toned down over a month ago posting this... Since then, it's only gotten worse. Blake has been right in there himself, being somewhat more passive aggressive about it. A few days back, I chose to ignore the direct confrontations. Blake chose to keep calling me out, by name. Hey, it's his place, he can do what he wants in his little domain. When you keep calling someone out like that, you are clearly looking for confrontation though. Odd thing for a "moderator" to do, but he is showing quite a streak of hypocrisy. He can show me the door anytime he likes. OTOH, there's no need to show it to me, I've got it clearly in sight. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I've got a dormant chest freezer, and a dormant full-size freezer...and a local meat shop that's still going full-bore. Maybe stocking up isn't a bad idea. I need my protein. The stores, more and more, are getting bare. I think it's a combination of 1) more people staying home and eating at home instead of restaurants, and 2) producers having reduced outputs. I hope we get out of this soon. If we have food issues...things will get ugly. Fast. | ||
| Hootowl |
Tom, I love you brother. Stick around. This shit is going to blow over. Not worth losing friends over. | ||
| Aesquire |
Can’t buy a Ferrari or a T-bone . . . . When has that happened I. History? WW2 We are in the middle of a great EXPERIMENT to see if Governors can decree a flattening of the curve. We won't know the results for, maybe a year? yeah, a year from Dec. 1 roughly marks the time the Chinese plague was admitted to exist, even if they didn't admit it was dangerous or that there was human to human transmission. We'll see by then if there's a second wave of Pooh's Breath. Try to REMEMBER this all, by next Dec.1, because sure as Donald Trump loves to troll, Governors will try and decree a plague next year when the new flu escapes from China. And it looks, tentatively, like the "flattening experiment" might be working, which has horrid implications for civil liberties. If that sounds messed up, it is, just like the Apollo program meant for decades after some jerk would say "If we could go to the Moon with a massive government Project then we can do anything with a massive government project". I don't wish we hadn't visited our satellite, or that the hospitals were overwhelmed, but I've wanted to punch guys for a long time for using Apollo as an excuse to steal money, and I'm going to be angry as heck when Governor X decrees that I can't fly a glider because of the flu, and he got away with it this year. And the worst part, as usual, is the erosion of trust that will inevitably lead to a REAL death dealing crisis being blown off, because in 2020 the Media and the Socialist Democrat Party wanted power and wealth. ( and over hyped it 24/7 ) And on the way home from getting groceries for my elderly parents, ( whom I am worried about ) the pundit on the radio is going off on how Dr. F is a shill for Big Pharma, pushing an experimental, and failed, Ebola drug, because he gets money from the company trying to make a profit on a failure. Which could be true, or utter bunk. Now excuse me while I take up drinking. | ||
| Aesquire |
Freedom comes with responsibility. It's not about bravely facing the invisible virus. It's about the fact that you are stupidly spreading it to others. Yep, that's why the anti-social distancing is recommended. You have to take this stuff seriously. Or it kills your relatives. Admittedly there are a few... ( sarcasm, joke ) Best reason for masks. ( anon ) "If everyone is naked, some guy can pee on you, and you get all wet. If you have pants on, some pee gets through, but you aren't as wet. If you both wear pants, you don't get wet." | ||
| Blake |
Patrick, That graphic is fallacious. All epidemics, no matter the intervention or non-intervention follow a bell-shaped or skewed bell-shaped trajectory. An outbreak may kill everyone, but the death rate eventually goes to zero. We know that the cv doesn't even come close to killing everyone. The virus will have it's way, one way or another.  | ||
| Hootowl |
Except that dude’s pants are made of window screen, so you get piss on you anyway. Coronavirus is to non n95 masks just as piss is to windowscreen. | ||
| Hootowl |
That’s a great graphic, Blake. | ||
| Strokizator |
Cute explanation but apples and oranges. I've never heard of someone pissing through his pants. Would you feel ok with being in contact with someone you knew had the virus as long as both of you wore a homemade (or N95) mask? 5% of 5% of 10 million is still a whole lot | ||
| Blake |
Tom, If the bare meat shelves happened immediately after the news media commenced reporting the reduction in packing and processing capacity, it's likely that people saw that and went meat shopping to stock up. This is basic human nature, psychology 101. Do you deny it? | ||
| Aesquire |
Blake, What graphic? The JOKE? Heck, the joke part is dead solid real. People ARE going to complain we over reacted, no matter if we did, or didn't. That's human nature. I make no claims as to the curves on a Joke being factual. Nice graphic you posted. Russian artist. https://www.saatchiart.com/account/artworks/956390 Ok, but not anything I'd hang on the wall, looks like hotel art. But darn good. I'm more a Comic art or blueprint guy. We know that the cv doesn't even come close to killing everyone. Oh? Wanna bet it's the ONLY cause of death listed by June? After all, we are mortal, and everyone dies, so.... Sarcasm btw. I had a thought that the herd immunity thing might be a recent idea, but I was wrong. 1930s? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity I'm still right that it is irrelevant until much time has passed and most, say 75%, are vaccinated or immune from having recovered. And California shows with the measles outbreak, that if you have a growing uncontrolled immigrant population that it makes herd immunity vanish. It only works in relatively isolated populations, and with today's ease of cheap travel, 1930's thinking doesn't work. And isn't it the cheap flights of hundreds of thousands of Chinese who went home for New Years that spread CCP-plague world wide in record time? Heck, back in the old days, it took months to ride a camel down the Spice Route from China to Rome, carrying Coral and gold to trade for spices and silk. Disease might kill off most of the weak in the Caravan by the time you made Constantinople. It wasn't the yearly clockwork Chinese Airways delivery back then. | ||
| Blake |
>>> Tom, I love you brother. Stick around. This shit is going to blow over. Not worth losing friends over. I concur. I'd just ask that everyone cease with the mean-spirited personal comments. And stop taking offense at words unintended to cause offense. As put so well by Chip Gaines:
May we all go forward with that kind of attitude. | ||
| Sifo |
Tom, If the bare meat shelves happened immediately after the news media commenced reporting the reduction in packing and processing capacity, it's likely that people saw that and went meat shopping to stock up. This is basic human nature, psychology 101. Do you deny it? Why do you continue to just make shit up? From 10 days ago... https://www.foodbusinessnews.net/articles/15856-co vid-19-closes-two-more-meat-processing-plants BTW, there's zero science in your post. |
