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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, it will not stop global warming. Solar cycles and plate tectonics are not impacted by humans living or dying.
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But the biggest contribution in global warming process is CO pollution which is now significantly less due to coronavirus quarantine.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Prove that CO causes temperature rise.

I'll wait.
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Willmrx
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LFTR are interesting. Not to hijack this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK367T7h6ZY
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CO and CO2 participate in Greenhouse Effect mechanism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Again, (and we can start a new thread so as not to hijack this one) prove those two chemicals cause an uncontrolled and uncapped rise in global temperatures.

Prove to me it isn't standard, cyclical, ice-age / warming period temperature cycle, as evidenced by any number of historical studies that show "little ice ages" such as the medieval plague era, or warmer times such as the Roman Warm Period. Last I checked, the Romans didn't create CO2 - why was it warmer then, than it is now?

I'll wait.

You can post your proof in the "Science, Climate, and Winter is Coming" thread.
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Oldog
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ut the biggest contribution in global warming process is CO pollution which is now significantly less due to coronavirus quarantine.



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PLEASE NOT ON THIS THREAD ..
DO YOU BELIEVE IN FLAT EARTH TOO ?.....
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, we already have a thread where the head of the UN Climate Change thing admits there's no science involved, it's all about power and wealth, "changing the system" ( to one where Authoritarians Rule }

Post your science fiction there, please.

However, you are correct that the lack of human activity reduces pollution. Since China's skies haven't been this clean in decades. Except for the incinerator smoke. But the difference between a functioning industrial nation, especially one with almost no pollution controls, and a few hundred thousands bodies being burned is massive.

The hard greens are cheering the Virus on, as they think Mankind is the plague upon the Earth. I don't necessarily disagree, except for the minor detail that I don't want to be slaughtered to save the wood tick.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry ... I just wanted to make a point that the ill informed .... like bass in a Kansas farm pond .... will snap up any crap you throw in the water.

Point made.

Back to the graphs.

(Message edited by Court on April 01, 2020)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Need to remember this after the "curve is flattened":



(Message edited by ourdee on April 01, 2020)
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn, I already thought Italy was in trouble, this article says things are even worse than reported.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/italys-corona virus-death-toll-is-far-higher-than-reported/ar-BB 122vvc?li=BBnb7Kz
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Coronavirus has no mercy
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn, I already thought Italy was in trouble, this article says things are even worse than reported.

I figured Italy was on the highway to hell as soon as they decided not to treat those over 65. You get mercy as you give it. They are responsible for their actions.
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Friend from Avon with Pooh's Breath V/D has been released from IU West today after spending 7 days in there and a week prior at home with it. He stayed off the vent. Supposed to have another 3 days on quarantine. His wife who also got it is still doing well at home. Ages approximately 72 years.
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even deadly viruses want to survive. There is nothing virus can do about it, like there is nothing people can do about people eat another creatures. People are part of ecosystem just like other animals, we eat animals and animals eat us.

(Message edited by TPEHAK on April 01, 2020)
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Viruses are not living creatures.
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It does not stop them from doing what they are doing.


(Message edited by TPEHAK on April 01, 2020)
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tom you ought to enjoy this:

Just another way of looking at the data. This plot of daily mortality will better help identify the peak of the epidemic. It appears that both Spain and Italy are heading for the downside.

Our USA experts (Fauci, Birx and friends) are estimating our peak in two weeks or so, at 26 days in the chart below.


CCP-Virus Mortality for Spain, Italy, the USA, & S. Korea XY with trending




(Message edited by blake on April 02, 2020)
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A semi-log plot of total cumulative mortality:

This semi-log plot of total cumulative deaths is helpful for identifying the peak total death toll, indicated by the apparent asymptote that will eventually become obvious.


CCP-Virus Cumulative Death Toll for Spain, Italy, USA, and S. Korea (Log from 1 DPM)
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Tpehak
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I's gonna be more useful data if you will calculate not deaths per million people but deaths area per million people and you will find that situation in USA is significantly worst because of with smaller population density USA has more infection probability.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 03:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The population of the USA is 82% urban, more so than the developed nations Spain (80%), Italy (70%) and S. Korea (81%) that are included on the plot.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.URB.TOTL.I N.ZS
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 03:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We're not as bad off because our President initiated travel bans early.

We're not doing as well as S. Korea because the federal bureaucracy know and the CDC utterly failed at its job, completely botching the production of vital early test kits, shipping kits that failed to work. If it hadn't been for that, we'd have been golden.

Then de Blasio scoffed at closing schools and large gatherings. He didn't listen to the experts. Now lot's of people are paying.

My dear old friends of college and offshore days just lost his dear aunt. She died alone in Tampa while her husband stayed quarantined at home.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 05:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUai0dAqiFE
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 06:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.city-journal.org/coronavirus-pandemic- humility
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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I have a data point in my world.
My nearly 70 year-old sister in Chapel Hill is now a confirmed case in the UNC Hospital.
Watching and praying from a distance, we are.
My BIL is wracking his brain trying to guess where she got it, since they have been in their house for three weeks, with only three forays to get groceries.(One for him, two for her) Maybe filling up with gas?

(Message edited by Chauly on April 02, 2020)
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Court
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Praying with you
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Ducbsa
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronaviru s/how-obamas-failure-resupply-respirators-federal- stockpile-created-2020#.XoRxc7yjNVg.twitter
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/this-is-t he-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-pandemic-dr-stephen -smith-announces-hydroxy-choloroquine-study-that-i s-game-changer-in-battle-against-coronavirus-video /
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Ducbsa
Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-spoke-of-coro navirus-in-sotu-pelosi-tore-it-up-called-it-manife sto-of-mistruths
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