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     Whisperstealth |
If you don't like it G, don't click on the page. See how simple that is? Trying to tell other's what they can or can not discuss is wrong. It's called the 1st amendment. You can call people morons all you want, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it; but that is where your rights stop. I understand being emotional and having enough of something; that's when I know it's time to back away from something and leave it alone. I suggest you back away and compose yourself, but the choice is of course yours to make. | ||
| Sifo |
There's a bit of irony in how we all see this. Some of us see a serious crisis and will do things that will curb the spread of the disease. Others see a load of BS and won't change their habits. If it's a load of BS (and it has been most times) then the cautious will get blame for being overly cautious and their caution will have been for naught. If it's a real bad disease, and enough people exercise caution, the result is similar. If OTOH, it goes all shit show on us, then we all suffer badly. Watching the latest in the video series that I stopped posting (I guess you can find it if you want to watch it. It offends too many who don't want to click on it.) He was talking about one of he Asian countries (Hong Kong, or Singapore maybe, it's not that important which) that has done all the right things to curb the spread of Covid-19. Turns out, they've been very successful. Funny thing though, he showed a graphic of their seasonal flu for the past decade. They actually drove the rate of seasonal flu down to zero at a point where in other years flu was just dropping off, and never does drop to zero. The biggest things they do is disinfecting surfaces and wearing masks. It works. It seems in our country, we have created a situation where we used all the masks previously, and never replenished the supply. Now doing something simple and effective isn't even an option. That leaves leaders with less options, and they can't say things that will stir panic, like if we had enough masks, everyone could be fine, but we don't even have enough for hospital workers. So now we are left with more draconian methods of limiting transmission. New York is on the verge of looking like Italy. Other states are starting to look at the possibility of limiting travel from NY. Despite our efforts, it's still spreading at an exponential rate. Panic will only make it much worse, so leaders have to be very cautious in how they urge people to do the right things. As they see essentials disappear from the grocery stores, they do start to panic. FIFTYS! I hope Cityxslicker is doing well, where ever he is. | ||
| Sifo |
Damn, Spain is stacking bodies on skating rinks. Keep telling us how this is nothing to worry about. https://apnews.com/8bd9ec1261d19913a301a9bfb868432 1 | ||
| Fb1 |
86129squids: Spoke with my Chaplain sister, worked a long day in the hospital, came home @5ish central. She collapsed for a well deserved nap for about 4 hours. Called me about 9ish here, sounded in good spirits, until I mentioned Trump's speech about things being over by Easter. That's not what President Trump said (nor were his comments made during a speech). (Message edited by fb1 on March 25, 2020) | ||
| Fb1 |
Sifo: There's a bit of irony in how we all see this. Some of us see a serious crisis and will do things that will curb the spread of the disease. Others see a load of BS and won't change their habits. Who is "we" and "us"? Folks on this thread? Americans in general? Speaking only for myself: yep, there's a nasty virus going around, and my wife and I are taking all due precautions, including masking-up and wearing protective eyewear during our weekly supply runs. That said, the "crisis" in all of this is media-generated (at the behest of ???), IMO, for all the blatantly obvious reasons. (Message edited by fb1 on March 25, 2020) | ||
| Fb1 |
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| Ratbuell |
If *facebook* had hoarded 720,000 masks...how many other companies have "stockpiles" of equipment that could be distributed throughout the nation? I listened to the NY putz (can't remember if it was a mayor or a governor) saying "send all the masks and all the equipment to NY, we're ground zero"...um...huh?? WTF?? Sorry dude, you don't get ALL the resources. Shoulda clamped down your locale sooner. I agree - hotspots need to be quarantined. Yesterday. If this is such a huge deal...why haven't we done that yet? Or is it not such a huge deal after all? Personally, I still think the hype is worse than the actual disease. Not that the disease doesn't exist...but I simply don't see it growing to the point that the press makes it out to be. | ||
| Ducbsa |
This series of articles is interesting from the virus risk analysis and the work of the Party Censors at the Twin Cities newsrag. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/kev in-roche-my-struggle-with-the-star-tribune-3.php | ||
| Sifo |
Who is "we" and "us"? Folks on this thread? Americans in general? Speaking only for myself: yep, there's a nasty virus going around, and my wife and I are taking all due precautions, including masking-up and wearing protective eyewear during our weekly supply runs. That said, the "crisis" in all of this is media-generated (at the behest of ???), IMO, for all the blatantly obvious reasons. I'm going to have to go with the world in general. That of course, includes the groups you mentioned. Glad to hear that you and your wife have prepared and are being cautious. That's exactly the behavior that was being discussed in the Asian country, where they had this thing well under control, and as a byproduct, drove the flu to zero. It works, and it's not that big of a hardship. Especially when compared to shutting down a big percentage of our economy for weeks at a time. No, it's not Captain Trips, but I don't think stacking bodies on ice rinks is normal in Spain either. NY hospitals are starting to put multiple patients on ventilators. That's not normal. There's a world full of not normal, not because of people pointing out the facts, but because of the facts that are presenting themselves. Sadly, one bit of normalcy that continues is the partisan behavior of out congresscritters. | ||
| Chauly |
From where I live (just offset from I-95, south of BLT) when I walk my pup in the early morning, the highway sounds are a dull roar "over yonder". In the past few days, it has become quieter and quieter. This morning, it was eerily silent. kinda freaks the dog a bit... | ||
| Fb1 |
Sifo: Sadly, one bit of normalcy that continues is the partisan behavior of our congresscritters. Agree, except to add "some of our congresscritters." There are many patriots in Congress, almost exclusively on the R side of the aisle, working their arses off on our behalf. There are, perhaps, some actual patriots on the D side, but if so, they're compelled to keep their mouths shut and vote in lockstep with Pelosi and Schumer. I hope, come November, that the millions of typically-Democrat voters in this country remember who fought so hard to hold up their coronavirus relief money during this trying time. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I hope, come November, that the millions of typically-Democrat voters in this country remember who fought so hard to hold up their coronavirus relief money during this trying time. The problem is, voters are isolated from those facts by our wonderful, non-partisan Media Establishment. They're fed the party line, 24/7. Orange Man Bad, and that's all - and the majority of citizens are too stupid or too complacent to actually dig, and find the truth. | ||
| Ourdee |
Hey RD List your source as to latest USA first, states as well. Italy's FUBAR. Precision matters. Heck, we're Erik's people. Brad, Same source I have been sticking with, Johns Hopkins: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboa rd/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 Go To: the panel on left titled: Confirmed Cases by Country/Region/Sovereignty Click on: US, scroll through admin 1, admin2, admin 3. Stop in admin 1 Go To: the panel with graph on the lower right: enlarge it and click on: Daily Increase Lot of info if you explore the page. | ||
| Sifo |
I understand that while on break last week, a few (R)s and (D)s actually did some good work together. They came back this week and Pelosi turned it into a laundry list of poison pills. Pretty sad stuff. | ||
| Sifo |
I see Pelosi has retreated from her BS demands. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/24/pe losi-suffers-massive-political-hit-abandons-house- scheme-announces-acceptance-of-senate-bill/ | ||
| Ducbsa |
Tom Cotton 2024!! | ||
| Gregtonn |
I see Pelosi has retreated from her BS demands. Not quite. The Senate seems to have worked out a deal. The House has already gaveled in and gaveled out for the day. The smell of fresh BS is in the air. G | ||
| Ratbuell |
...and it's not just springtime crop fertilizing... | ||
| Hootowl |
I would say I’m beginning to cotton on to a Cotton presidency. | ||
| Crusty |
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| Hughlysses |
My county, Williamsburg County, SC (the poorest county in SC) just reported its first case. Scott Adams reported on his broadcast this morning he knows for a fact that celebrities that test positive are universally getting the hydroxychloroquine/Z-pack drug regimens. Doctor in rural NY reports 100% success rate prescribing this plus zinc sulfate on ~500 patients with recovery time of ~5 days. | ||
| 86129squids |
Crusticle- I was expecting that cartoon. True, dat. M just got back from a short shift at work. She works at a discount retailer which is considered an "essential" business in that they provide foodstuffs and medicines. Her bosses gave her a letter that she now must carry with her in public that states this status with a code that the po-po can confirm. This shit's about to get real. FB- to clarify, no, he didn't say "things would be over", but what he did say less than 2 minutes in was, let me say, more than mildly unhelpful. We CAN'T be raising people's hopes and expectations like that just yet. 40 minutes of yes, A SPEECH from our POTUS. | ||
| 86129squids |
What. An. Ai$$hat. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-upda tes/2020/03/25/821371963/man-faces-terror-charge-a fter-allegedly-coughing-toward-worker-citing-virus ?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=nprblogscoronavirusli veupdates | ||
| Tpehak |
How people can keep social 6 feet distance if they even can not keep 4 seconds safety distance in traffic, tailgaters are everywhere. | ||
| 86129squids |
Oh, and didja hear about the kid who went to a coronavirus party who now has tested positive? "Young, dumb, full of c**". https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-upda tes/2020/03/25/821247412/kentucky-has-39-new-infec tions-including-1-person-who-attended-a-coronaviru s-par | ||
| Ratbuell |
Actually, the President said he is hoping that the country will be back to work sooner rather than later, and that he hopes the situation will pass sooner rather than later. He's trying to be upbeat, and quell some of the abject fear that the MSM is promoting right now. If people are so paranoid, stay the hell home. I have a coworker who's losing his shit right now, and I told him to his face to just go home. If you're getting immobilized by all this fear...go home. You aren't helping anyone by being at work. People need to keep numbers like this in mind, as they freak out about this, and maybe give things a little more thought before they go total-batshit-crazy: The new coronavirus causing COVID-19 has led to more than 435,000 illnesses and more than 19,600 deaths worldwide. For comparison, in the U.S. alone, the flu (also called influenza) has caused an estimated 38 million illnesses, 390,000 hospitalizations and 23,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). (Message edited by ratbuell on March 25, 2020) | ||
| Tpehak |
You have to accept the fact now we live in the world where one person can destroy all mankind and there is no way to prevent it. | ||
| Sifo |
Great cartoon Crusty! Sad to hear that Pelosi may not do the right thing at such a critical time. So what did the POTUS say that wasn't helpful? He mention of Easter had to do with "beginning to open things up again". That's 2 1/2 weeks away. Our area has been in a drastic shut down of many things for a week and a half now. By Easter we will have 4 weeks of, hopefully, effective measures. We are also rural, so it's much easier to distance from each other. If it's not spreading by Easter (yes we also need to do very aggressive testing and contact tracing) I would hope things do start to open up. An area like NYC may not be safe to do so. I certainly think that any good leader is going to put as positive spin on it as they can. Focus on what we can do, rather than how terrible things are. We get plenty of that if we have our eyes open. A leader shows the way to better times. I think this is going to be kind of a paradigm shift for many things. I was working in the shop this morning and had the radio on. The DJ started talking about how strange it was for her to be broadcasting from home. This is fantastic! They got set up to do this and I as a listener had no idea. It's the kind of adaptation that makes a free market so great. So when this is over, they may find they can do more of this kind of thing without a studio. That would be a paradigm shift for radio if that happens. There are countless examples of this going on all across our country right now. It will be great when some things go back to normal. I bet some things will become a new business model though. At the moment, we feel a lot of pain. I'm more than confident that we will bounce back from this as strong as ever though. It may take quite a few months to get back where we were, but it will happen. Another example, we will be closing on the house sale April 1st. We were given a couple of options. It looks like we will be doing the closing through the mail. I'm not completely sure how that's going to work out, but people are working hard to figure out how to keep business happening. Other businesses, when things start again, may have workers wear masks to prevent spread. It would be a strange sight for us at first, but it's common in areas of Asia already. It works, with all sorts of illnesses. I'm pretty sure that there will be very unexpected things that come from this. These certainly are interesting times. | ||
| Sifo |
The new coronavirus causing COVID-19 has led to more than 435,000 illnesses and more than 19,600 deaths worldwide. For comparison, in the U.S. alone, the flu (also called influenza) has caused an estimated 38 million illnesses, 390,000 hospitalizations and 23,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). I agree with what you are saying to a co-worker. That comparison to the flue is hardly encouraging though. Covid 19 has only been around for a couple of months. Much of that time, probably most of that time, people outside China weren't even aware of it. It is literally, just getting started. There is no reason to think that it won't spread to as many people as the flu. Look at the illness to death ratio of the two. You really don't have to do the math to see that if we get 38 million Covid 19 illnesses, that the deaths will far surpass the flu. Don't be paranoid, but don't be stupid either. | ||
| Tpehak |
That's why I think human should develop AI with consciousness where we can load our mind so we can live in another less vulnerable form. |
