| Author | Message | ||
     Ourdee |
Chloroquine opens the door for zinc.  | ||
| Tpehak |
More scary shots from Italy. In Italy if you have diagnosed coronavirus you have 50% chance to die. That's complete nonsense! Good grief! Coronavirus mortality rate is between 0.5% and 7% depending on the age and relative health of the population. - Blake (Message edited by TPEHAK on March 21, 2020) (Message edited by Blake on March 23, 2020) | ||
| Hootowl |
Is that because they’re only testing seriously ill people? | ||
| Tpehak |
I hope so because of if they test everyone it means people in another countries die without being tested on coronavirus and chance to die with coronavirus is actually about 50%. That is absolute nonsense! The Chinese coronavirus mortality rate ranges from between 0.5% and 5% depending upon the age and health of the population involved. - Blake (Message edited by blake on March 23, 2020) (Message edited by blake on March 23, 2020) | ||
| 86129squids |
Been taking zinc, vitamin C, turmeric/cucumin daily. Italy looks FUBAR. Great Britain might soon follow. I doubt we've seen the worst here in the US, not by a longshot. Hope I'm wrong. Forecast here in E TN is a week of rain. About drove M craycray just being inside with my scrambled noodle after being laid off yesterday. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
How does Russia only have 300ish cases? Are they lying? Or is the fact that they are a much more closed off nation a huge factor? Both? I know they do not import Asians or Muslims like the US does. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
Germany is doing pretty well. | ||
| Tpehak |
Russia has social distancing and social isolated lifestyle. (Message edited by TPEHAK on March 21, 2020) | ||
| Ourdee |
They may handle it like N Korea too. | ||
| Ourdee |
304,529 confirmed 12,973 dead 91,678 recovered https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboa rd/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 | ||
| Sifo |
Germany doesn't make any sense. 22,213 confirmed 84 dead 233 recovered That's only 1.4% of cases coming to a resolution. More than that should just get better on their own. | ||
| Hootowl |
Confirmed may include asymptomatic cases. Have they recovered, or have they not yet taken ill? Without answers to those questions, recovery stats are sort of meaningless. | ||
| Fb1 |
Classic, this morning, was Fauci dropping his head into his hands when President Trump went off on the “deep state”. This Fauci?   | ||
| Aesquire |
A few looks at numbers. First, be skeptical on predictions. The smart, honest ones will tell you that specifically. Second, this is, and will be for weeks to come, incomplete numbers. Numbers from China can be assumed to be outright lies. Numbers from other sources are based on very limited testing. And official reports, which vary in credibility. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/yes terdays-wuhan-coronavirus-numbers-2.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/int ernational-mortality-rates-updated-what-do-they-te ll-us.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/a-d ata-driven-look-at-the-wuhan-coronavirus.php | ||
| Aesquire |
I'm not a health care professional. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express! ( in Jan. It was nice. ) And I played a First Responder on the street. No Tony or Oscar nominations, though, at best a "we got this" from ambulance crews. Statistical analysis, however, that I did. Got paid, too. A few tips on reading what people say about numbers. A real scientist, engineer, chemist, researcher, etc. without bias imposed by ideology or political pressure... Will list numbers as a plus/minus or more useful to laymen, as a low/high pair of numbers. Thus you will read "we anticipate ( our best guess when we wrote this ) between 0.7% and 15% rate of X " ( infection/mortality/recovery ) and get a feel for the accuracy available at that time. O.7-15 is a huge degree of uncertainty, but over time that will improve. If they are not honest, or had a political speech writer rewrite their dry boring announcement. You will read "We anticipate up to 15% rate of X". Which isn't a LIE, necessarily, but only gives you the worst ( or best ) case numbers, and indicates you are reading spin more than or equal to honest reporting. And almost everything a talking head on tv breathlessly reads off a teleprompter, has been written to spin it to please the Editor or owner. | ||
| Gregtonn |
Germany doesn't make any sense. Nor do any of your other posted numbers. I've tried to tell you significant parts of the equation are missing in these postings. G | ||
| Tpehak |
Washington, US Confirmed: 1,793 Deaths: 94 Recovered: 0 Active: 1,699 In Seattle if you have confirmed coronavirus you will die 100% not so much. The virus' mortality rate is no more than 5%, globally around 1-2%. A LOT less going forward if current medications indications prove out. - Blake (Message edited by blake on March 23, 2020) (Message edited by blake on March 23, 2020) | ||
| Hughlysses |
It’s damn near impossible to draw any conclusions from the published statistics. China appears to have turned the corner on this thing, but given their history, everyone’s rightfully skeptical. Italy’s people seem to be dropping like flies, but it appears they are conflating deaths largely caused by other reasons. I.E.- someone has terminal cancer, catches COVID-19, and dies, and they chalk it up as a Coronavirus death. So their alarming statistics may be greatly skewed. Twitter-verse opinions from seemingly reasonable and intelligent posters run from “this is just the tip of the iceberg” to “this is completely overblown and we are days from causing the second Great Depression over a disease that’s largely already run its course.” I’m in the 60-plus age bracket with a potential underlying condition, so I’m erring on the side of caution. A lot of very smart people have their full attention focused on this thing. I’m hopeful they’ll quickly figure it out. | ||
| Hootowl |
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-jersey-mayor-stress es-social-distancing-after-video-shows-youths-defy ing-police “It wasn’t nothing for nobody to be thinking they could be doing anything,” Our education system is a disaster. | ||
| Ratbuell |
In Seattle if you have confirmed coronavirus you will die 100% How the hell do you come to that conclusion?? Look at your own numbers, bonehead - 1,699 cases have not concluded yet, one way or the other. They could all recover. They could all die. Or - most likely - somewhere in between. Some will recover, some will die. You're looking at incomplete data, and your "conclusion" will do nothing but spread panic. And make you look like a moron. We will only have a survival / mortality rate when, using your numbers, we have 1,793 results out of 1,793 cases. "Active"...is not a result. Putz. | ||
| Crusty |
Well; I think that the virus will have a 100% fatality rate for those who have died from it. | ||
| Sifo |
Washington reporting zero recovered is another data point that doesn't make sense. Makes me wonder if they are just assuming they are OK to go back to daily life when they feel better without testing to see if the are rid of the virus. I would hope that once you identify an active case, that they would want to monitor that person until they are certain they are recovered. It's tough to know what each state is doing without digging into each state's procedures. Tpehak is right though, we're all going to die.  | ||
| Hootowl |
Truth. I have somewhere between 1 second and 50 years before something gets me. | ||
| Tpehak |
There are no recovered persons here in Seattle, only dead or infected. So if you were infected and detected as infected person here in Seattle you will not recover, you will die or you will stay sick forever. I'm not sure what is worst. Recovered means the illness has run its course and the person has fully recovered and is testing negative. Zero recovered just means all those "active" patients are still testing positive, not that they've died. The mortality rate is near 1-2% in Seattle. That means for every 100 people who get infected and test positive, at most 2 will die. Some people get infected and never get tested because their symptoms are so mild. Some never even get noticeable symptoms. - Blake (Message edited by TPEHAK on March 22, 2020) (Message edited by blake on March 23, 2020) | ||
| Gregtonn |
True Hoot. My grandson works gigs as a runway model for many of the large European fashion houses to pay for his college education. He lives in Germany and has worked gigs in Milan, Paris, London, Copenhagen and LA, all since mid January (he did turn down a gig in China). If this bug is as fatal as some claim it is he would surely be dead by now. G | ||
| Hootowl |
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/the_i f_you_dont_need_it_campaign.html Good idea. Toehak, are you being facetious? If so, it’s not coming through. | ||
| 86129squids |
Hey all, PLEASE check this out. Happened to find this perusing the Nashville Scene website. I'd dearly appreciate it if you'd add your name and comments to the petition. https://tnactionforhospitality.com/ | ||
| Court |
Folks ..... in reasonably decent health...... seem, at least in the NJ/NY area, seem to be recovering just fine. This is serious .... particularly to folks of diminished health ..... But ..... we have a well documented history of overcoming adversity. I’m jumping in the racer and seeing how far I can make it into the depth of the Everglades on this gorgeous day. Too much hyperbole and fear monger if on the tube. :-) | ||
| Tpehak |
We can use those empty restaurants as temporary hospitals rooms for infected. | ||
| Hootowl |
Again, can’t tell whether you’re kidding. Try an emote, or something, to help us out. |
