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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)











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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Toilet nancy is $14.99 on Etsy
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Upchuck schumer

all rolls Etsy $25 each
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H0gwash
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In the true spirit of capitalism, custom printed toilet paper is also available in various Trump patterns for $9.
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trade 2 rolls for 80 acres & a barn.

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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.city-journal.org/coronavirus-pandemic- humility

Good read.

Hanson's "A War like No Other..."
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0812969707/ref=dbs_ a_w_dp_0812969707

Is the definitive history of the Peloponnesian War, which proved Democracy is a Bad Idea. It's a bit textbook like, and a slow read.

His "A Western Way Of War... " is a good take on how the Classical Greeks changed war with an organized, in your face, battle line. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0520260090/ref=dbs_ a_w_dp_0520260090

My recommendation of all his works would be "Carnage And Culture..." Which discusses the Citizen Soldier vs. The Slave Armies of the God Kings. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0385720386/ref=dbs_ a_w_dp_0385720386

A thoroughly entertaining read, and the best history book title ever!


So it's natural for a history scholar to look at current events informed by the Past. Gives you better, if not perfect, perspective.

When I keep saying "No city ever closed it's gates on a plague in time to keep it out" that is based on thousands of years of horrible, bloody, death filled truth.

Yeah, we've got vaccines and DNA testing, and speed of light planetary communications. And that's all wonderful. But no one slammed the door on this pandemic in time, for various reasons. Initially, because the Chinese God King didn't want to look bad, and has people murdered to hide any flaws in his Paradise.

So, yeah, you can't trust any numbers from China.

You're best being skeptical of any claims by a sitting administration, CYA applies, and be Very skeptical about any claims by the opposition.

If you just assume the more Left side is lying, you will live a longer and happier life.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No problems. As I said though, that is willful ignorance.

Actually no, it is not.
That's life.
Do yourself a favor and live it.

G


Well, you have stated that you don't want to watch the videos, etc. That is willfully choosing to not take in available information. Call it what you like. I feel that I am able to learn the facts and still live life.

We did run to town this AM to get some things. On the way there I saw someone with their back seat stuffed full of TP and paper towels. Home Depot was kind of odd. I've never seen so many people working at Home Depot. Probably close to as many workers as customers. We also stopped for some groceries at Walmart, just because it shares a parking lot with Home Depot. No eggs or butter. Most things were available, but shelves were far from full, and the store was busy.

We're about to out to walk the pup at a local nature area. Trust me, I'm enjoying living life, especially being off work because of the school closings.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I work next door to a Lowe's. They've been SLAMMED all day.

Makes sense.

If you're gonna be stuck at home for 14 days, might as well have something to do! (Get that honey-do list knocked out...)

I might buy some paint...
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/why -italy-and-iran.php

Colonialism is a dirty word in China. So they don't use it to describe colonizing other lands. 300,000 Chinese colonists in Italy, and an unknown number in Iran explains their high death rate.

Based on the Fact that Chinese government is going to lie, and hide disease wherever they spread it, the fact that there are few reports from Africa, where the One Belt One Road colonization and conquest program has been ongoing for years now, indicates to me that there is a HUGE amount of sickness and death going on that is still Secret.

And since the New York Times and other western media are dedicated propaganda arms for the Putin and Xi regimes, ( as they were for Stalin & Mao ) It's no surprise that they just choose not to report the obvious.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As soon as we get a break from the rain, I gotta get started on the yard and garden. Need to transplant about a half-dozen red hot poker clusters. Gutters need cleaning. Pressure wash the siding.

Probably going to skip my cousin's daughter's wedding next Saturday. Entertaining thoughts about heading to Suches the next weekend, but M would probably give me hell if I did.

If one needed comfort food in these times, Jim's 'cue would be hard to beat.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/487851-c hina-and-the-whos-chief-hold-them-both-accountable -for-pandemic

It's possible that the head of the World Health Organization decided to go along with Chinese lies to keep some control & contacts going in the Plague zone. Figuring he could do no good if they were kicked out, like reporters and forbidden access, like American experts, he might have chosen to keep the door open to some information gathering at the cost of cooperation with lies that delayed response in other countries.

Or he could just be a POS. Maybe we'll know later.
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H0gwash
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


COVID19
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I work next door to a Lowe's. They've been SLAMMED all day.

Makes sense.

If you're gonna be stuck at home for 14 days, might as well have something to do! (Get that honey-do list knocked out...)


Yep. I got my white board out today. My wife asked what that was coming out for. I just said "to do list", and it got filled right up. I've got at least 3 weeks off, spring is starting to break, so it's a great time to get some stuff done.

We just got the first case in our county today. It's traveling quickly. Next you get saturation. Really weird seeing fast food places deserted. Cross country driving has got to kind of suck without the ability to take a break and grab a bite to eat out of the vehicle. Strange times!
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good number of people parked at the natural area where we walked with the pup though.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been thoroughly amused of many things lately.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/17/817205813/oregon-po lice-remind-residents-dont-call-911-if-you-run-out -of-toilet-paper
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)







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Gregtonn
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, you have stated that you don't want to watch the videos, etc. That is willfully choosing to not take in available information.

Just because don't waste my time watching your videos doesn't mean I am not well informed.

Get over yourself and live life.

G
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just because don't waste my time watching your videos doesn't mean I am not well informed.

Get over yourself and live life.

G


True enough. Some things you've said make it clear that you are rejecting reality though.

I do live life, quite fully. I can do so without senseless risk though. Like I said, I'll continue posting the videos to keep them easily available for any that care to see them. They are easily ignored for those who don't care to hear what's going on.

I do wish you the best in all of this. It's up to you to decide what's best for you though. I hope you are making good choices.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Court
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I confess I’ve likely not watched 5 of the videos this year and whenever someone posts videos, absent any meaningful explanation, it strikes me a “click bait”

My greatest fascination is wondering where folks find time to dig them up. I’m damn sure I’ve not the time to watch ...much less spend endless hours perusing the internet.

But ..... we all have different sources of news and I realize .....never having had a Facebook, Twitter, Instagram or any other sort of social media (except about 38 days of Facebook when it was newly announced...took me a couple weeks to see i was chattel) ......and whoever you get your news ....well...good on ya

Still fun to read some of this stuff. The conspiracy theories amuse.

If this current concern strikes you as a hoax ....git here ass on over to Wal-Mart...sign on as. Greeted and start shaking those hands.

:-)
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, that one explains how to run 2 or 4 peeps off one ventilator.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some perspective from a very smart man.

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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What if the cure is this simple?
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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court... allow me to remind you that you've lots of stories not yet shared. Regardless, thank you for your sage wisdom.
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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Re-post but DILLIGAF.

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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

M wouldn't let me name our newest adopted dawgie Beavis. She insisted on Rocky. (Better than "Pinky", as he was named at the shelter.)

Still love the name Beavis.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some things you've said make it clear that you are rejecting reality though.

Would you care to state what that might be?

G
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 03:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Somewhere between "no worries mate" and "Dooooomed!!!" Is the right attitude.

Ditto, somewhere between 24/7 self bombardment, ( like watching news channels ) and "don't wanna know", is the "right" attitude there...


I don't watch every video posted, but I do flip through a few sites to follow the international reports, and admit to some amusement and dismay at pundits convinced that Iran will implode or everything is a plot.

Won't be as neat or simple as it seems.

As to plots, I just assume it's sponsored by Hydra, and am usually correct. But if you find out it's all a Red Chinese Army Intelligence operation, I won't be surprised. I can't do anything about dictators & billionaires, and like Epstien, I'm not suicidal. So I don't worry about it.

So obsess, to whatever level amuses you.

And wash your hands. ; )


As to the zapper Doc... I'm assuming it's a scam. But if it does work, I have 2 questions.

How do you keep it from zapping your home team bacteria?
Like the E coli that lives in balance in your gut and helps digest food. We have a variety of germs that are fairly symbiotic.

I seem to recall rumors, possibly fictional, about an experimental broad spectrum antibiotic that kills most every single celled critter in a body, but leaves the patient open to the next term that floats by, that then runs wild, killing the guy it just saved from fatal term x. "It cured his Ebola, then he died of athlete's foot 18 hours later"

Whether that's a real drug or not, the zapper promises to do the same, and the comment that the original treatment often caused colds seems to indicate the problem of a "germ power vacuum" applies .

It also lends verisimilitude to the reality of the zapper, but that could be just clever writing.

So... Feel free to try It out. Let us know. It would not be the first time that I was wrong.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just read a long thread on Twitter about this; it’s the Imperial College report on COVID-19:

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/ medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College -COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

According to the summary posted, they ran a simulation based on the information out of China, S Korea, and Italy. This is what caused things to kick into high gear here a couple of weeks ago.

If we treated this like the seasonal flu, they estimated 4 millions Americans would die in the next 3 months. Partial measures could cut that in half (the “level the curve” strategy) but it’s still a grim scenario. The measures currently in place should result in a leveling off of the death rate in the US in the next 3 weeks and then a decrease after that. But we’re going to be practicing social distancing for a long time.

The report states that we may be able to temporarily relax social distancing protocols later this summer, but the only long-term fix for this is a vaccine, and it will take more than a year to develop, test, and mass-produce that.

If you’re interested in reading the entire thread, which is a much more detailed synopsis than this, look up @jeremycyoung on Twitter. He’s apparently a history professor, but hopefully he’s putting out good info.
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