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Tpehak
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 04:16 pm: |
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It looks like KTM copied Buell S1 design
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Natexlh1000
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 04:41 pm: |
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Who copied whom? Trellis frames have existed for a long time. Here is one from 1993
![s](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/4062/861241.jpg) Here is one from 1961:
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Crusty
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 05:45 pm: |
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The duck has a valve train inspired by Rube Goldberg's designs and the Katoom's stylist was enraptured with a bucket of used razor blades. Neither captures the essence of an S1 |
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Tpehak
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 06:09 pm: |
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The exhaust headers |
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Rick_a
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 06:21 pm: |
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The S1 is as raw a motorcycle that's ever been made. The KTM is sharp, focused, and refined in comparison in execution, build, and aesthetics. |
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Pwnzor
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 06:49 pm: |
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I guess the header has some similarity, but I think that's about where it ends. |
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Ourdee
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 08:20 pm: |
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Rick I was in agreement with you till the and aesthetics. |
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Rick_a
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 08:29 pm: |
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quote:Rick I was in agreement with you till the and aesthetics.
The KTM is sharp...as in sharp and pointy, no? The Buell looks like a 1980's standard and dirt tracker made babies. |
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Ourdee
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 08:36 pm: |
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I don't like the sharp edges just for sharp edges look. Just me? May be. |
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Crusty
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 08:43 pm: |
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Maybe it's because I have a beard that I dislike motorcycles that look like used razor blades. By my aesthetics, the KTM looks like a barber's nightmare. |
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86129squids
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 09:50 pm: |
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I'm with RD. The KTM design is like origami and manga masticated. MV Agusta designs still follow classic lines. They're not great, but still good. Ducati tries and does a good job on several bikes. Triumph's more classic twins are good, leave alone several others. The Indian Scout looks good in person. BMW's RnineT kinda nails it. There are a few new bikes that are actually pretty/sexy. #Aesthetics matter. |
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Ourdee
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 10:01 pm: |
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Now I will accept the blade look on the Kawasaki Ninja H2R. At 249 mph, I think there should be wings. Would I open one up given the chance? My life insurance is paid. |
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Bartimus
| Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2019 - 02:39 pm: |
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It was a SuperDuke that made me trade in my Tenere for the Super Adventure SAR. Love that motor! But I still ride the tubers often, and think this is much better looking than that Super Puke.
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Ebutch
| Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2019 - 02:49 pm: |
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Agreed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/dogpile.gif) |
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Cupcake_mike
| Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 07:48 pm: |
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ourdee, the h2r already has wings, look closely....specifically to keep it from flying away. Have you seen the the new ZH2? Its kinda like a striped down version of the other h2s, cheaper suspension, regular swingarm, but the same engine. About half the price of the regular h2 and nearly 25% of the price of the R. Be interested to see what tuners can get out of it. Seriously thinking hard about one, though there are probably better options. |
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Ourdee
| Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 08:29 pm: |
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If I was a rich man..... |