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Xdigitalx
Posted on Monday, September 23, 2019 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I low sided 100 yrds from my home after completely forgetting to fully remove the loom bracket bolts under the handlebars and they vibrated out and locked up my steering ... and I lowsided at about 15-20 mph. got minor roadrash. It had been sitting out from my house for a week because it would not restart due to low battery and/or short in the loom that I thought I rigged good enough to ride.... That seemed to be an omen because I was planning a semi-long ride that day and the damage to bike and myself could have been a lot worse.

Anyways... the gear shifter still works but is bent inwards... the bike goes into neutral ok but the starter won't kick it over... I get no sound, no click when I hit the button. I think the shifter has a switch that might be broken??
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, September 23, 2019 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It could be your bank angle sensor under the seat. When you righted the bike you should have been able to turn off the key and then back on to reset it. Maybe it stuck in the off position. I'd check it out.

If the lever is bent, remove it. Put it in your oven at 600 degrees for 30-45 minutes and throw it in some water to anneal it. You will be able to bend it back without breaking it.
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Shoggin
Posted on Monday, September 23, 2019 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought the BAS only dis-abled the ignition?


The starter inter-lock circuit usually includes the ignition switch, ignition relay, side stand switch, clutch switch, the kill switch, and the starter button. You can get better detailed info from the electrical diagram for whatever year your bike is
from the manual (and for FREE!) from Buelmods.com or Buelltooth.com.

First check the battery voltage at the battery, then use the same meter to check all those switches for continuity and make sure they are on.

If it passes that test, it is an open circuit in the wiring between them.

Electrical diagnosis can seem daunting, but if you go through the items One at a time and don't skip anything, you WILL find the issue and get back to riding soon: )
Good luck buddy
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, September 23, 2019 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought the BAS only dis-abled the ignition?

Good question, I've never test mine. I'll have to research it.
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Shoggin
Posted on Monday, September 23, 2019 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well don't knock your bike over!




LOL
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Big_island_rider
Posted on Monday, September 23, 2019 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tootal "If the lever is bent, remove it. Put it in your oven at 600 degrees for 30-45 minutes and throw it in some water to anneal it. You will be able to bend it back without breaking it."

Does this work for clutch and brake levers also? Specifically asked for Harley versions.
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Shoggin
Posted on Monday, September 23, 2019 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did't think they were hardened? Learnt sompin' new!
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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are not hardened until they are bent. The actual bending makes them brittle. Ferris metals harden by heating and quenching in water or oil, some metals even air harden. Non-ferris metals are the opposite and heating and quenching makes them soft. Aluminum will work harden pretty quick so you need to soften it before you bend it back. Bending it back will harden it again but that's ok, however if it bends again it may break. So after you bend it back to the proper shape you might want to soften it again. If something is extremely bent it may take several annealments to get it back, bending it just a little each time. You can start to tell when it's getting stiff and not moving as easy. Time to anneal it again.

Oh, and you might want to take the rubber off the shifter before you throw it in the oven, it might set the smoke alarm off!
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Shoggin
Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2019 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And don't let the wife catch you!! : )
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