| Author | Message | ||
     Glitch |
I've found that if they get used, they get "ugly" | ||
| Shoggin |
"My first carry gun was a Ruger Black Hawk in .44 magnum with a 7.5" barrel. I carried in a shoulder rig with the holster tucked behind my belt at the waist. ...." You watched too many Lethal Weapon movies  | ||
| Ourdee |
I carried it starting in 1984. Maybe they copied me three years later. | ||
| Glitch |
^^^stunt double^^^ | ||
| Ducbsa |
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6913979/G un-groups-Million-plus-extended-magazines-flood-Ca lifornia.html | ||
| Ratbuell |
, but opponents said it [high capacity magazine] gives victims less time to escape or tackle a mass shooter as he reloads Nevermind the concept of a legal gun owner shooting back...or...oh...i dont know...how about using legislation to go after the CRIMINAL and not the gun?? And an interesting side note as I type this on my (Google-based) android phone...it won't fix a typo "amdroid" or "az", but every single time I type "gun" it autocorrects to "fun". Hmmm. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/04/some_ colorado_sheriffs_in_open_rebellion_over_red_flag_ gun_law.html Colorado Citizens should immediately petition the court to take the weapons out of the hands of people who are threats to Public Safety and Freedom. The Governor & Legislature. Multiple petitions each. When Leftists hand power to the Mob, grab it and use it against them. And after we've stripped the scary weapons from the Legislature, he sure to publish their ( no doubt multiple ) addresses. It's not Doxxing if it's public record, and these threats to liberty need to be pointed out to their neighbors. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Proud to say that Sheriff Steve Reams' signature is at the bottom of my CCW permit. Z | ||
| Tootal |
I was just down in Lakeland Florida visiting friends. This is in Polk county where Grady Judd is Sheriff. I love this guy!! One of many great things he has said was that on Halloween if your a registered child molester and you want to stay out of trouble, come on down to the county jail. We'll give you a nice dinner and a warm bed to spend the night. When you leave in the morning you can be sure we won't be visiting your home. Free of charge too! Here's a short video of Sheriff Grady clips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly8KnEJtpmQ | ||
| Ratbuell |
So, I got a Stack-On security safe for the truck, with RFID access (comes with an adhesive button, a keychain, and one shaped like a credit card). Nice setup, has key backup as well as 3-button electronic (set your own 3-8 button sequence) lock. And a safety cable that locks it - in my situation - to the drivers seat pedestal in my truck. Anyone know, will the RFID card cause issues with credit cards if I carry it in my wallet? I'm sure it *shouldn't*, and the instructions for the safe don't say a word about it, but figured I'd ask... | ||
| Ourdee |
I carried RFID cards in my wallets for years without any problems. | ||
| Aesquire |
Nope, all your credit cards have, or will soon, also have rfid chips. The tiny radio responses won't mess with the magnetic stripes still on the cards. They are just strips of olde school recording tape. However, it someone swings a credit card reader by your butt, they can consumate a transaction with your card. A bit of credit card rape. There are YouTube videos, so the idea is of questionable truth. Can it be done? Probably. Are people stealing your card info off the chip in your pocket? Maybe. Can theft easily be done without knowing your Zip code? Maybe not. Also transactions needing a PIN may not be a problem. But like credit card numbers, there's a market for lots of RFID data. But the subject is, at this time, a bit muddy. How justifiable is concern vs. Fear mongered paranoia propaganda? I don't know. A RFID blocking wallet is not a stupid idea. Spending big money on one? Do you buy $1600 purses? You can make your own with aluminum foil and duct tape. Or carry your wallet in a RFID blocking belt bag with your Glock. ???? But, Since few people wear fanny packs other than certain age groups and CC permit holders, they are a gun carry tell. Perhaps bold advertisements would stealth that up by misdirection? Big red letters, "RFID BLOCKING BELT. #RESISTBIGBANKING SAVE THE BABY WHALES FROM CAPITALISM" would probably make you blend in some place. Places that are run by Unicorn salesmen . Modern car theft using cell phones to photograph your car's data plate on the dash, then using a database to program remote wireless entry keys for a later, ( day, week ) theft is very real. Which reminds me to print a bar code to cover my data plate. One with the internet address to a Rick Roll. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I already have an rfid wallet. They were on sale at Columbia and super comfy, too. Only like $20, figured why not. | ||
| Zac4mac |
I carry cards in an Altoids tin. Perfect Faraday cage. Free after eating the mints... | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I have a female friend who is looking to replace a home defense weapon that was repossessed by an ••••••• ex-husband. That gun was a 9mm Sig and she was always struggling with loading the magazines and was generally intimidated to operate that gun. So she actually came up with the idea of buying a revolver to simply things in the event she has to use it in an emergency. I suggested the Ruger LCRx in 9mm, simply because I like 9mm and this seems to be nice gun according to the couple of reviews I have seen online. California roster-approved revolvers in 9mm don't exactly give much to choose from. I was actually wondering if ANY 9mm revolvers were legal here. Anyhow, if anyone has any opinions on this gun or revolvers in general, I am all ears. I have zero experience with revolvers, but I do think this one is kind of cool. https://www.ruger.com/products/lcrx/specSheets/5464.html    | ||
| Glitch |
I have a Ruger SP101 357, Its a great pistol. I imagine the 9mm would be just as nice. Limited muzzle flip and recoil with the 9 I'd guess, which is a plus in my book. | ||
| Ourdee |
Some ex-husbands are anusticular. Of course they are"EX"-husbands. Sounds like she would be a great candidate for a revolver. I am not a fan of 9mm when you can have a .357. But I carry what I want. 9mm could be just the ticket for her. | ||
| Aesquire |
See how comfortable she is loading the moon clips. Find a moon clip loader & unloader she is comfortable with. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
.357 is definitely not an option. Accuracy and less time needed for follow up shots is better with a 9mm. So how hard is it to load the moon clips by hand? Is going to be a PITA? | ||
| 04xl1200c |
Remember that a .357 pistol can fire .38 and .38 plus P rounds also. There are lots of fine choices in .38 caliber defense rounds available. | ||
| Rick_a |
The downside is recoil and if she's not an accomplished shooter...that trigger and the rudimentary sights and short sight radius will make things difficult to hit with. 9mm in a revolver has recoil in between a 38 Special and 357...neither of which tend to be pleasant for most people in a small gun...and also moon clips. They can be difficult to load/unload as well. That Sig was probably an ideal gun. A Lula loader probably would've solved her problems. For something for the home a GP100, or S&W model 10 or 64 would probably be more suitable. For something fancier maybe a 3" seven shot 686 plus. With .38 Special(+P) they'd be much easier to shoot. If she's got bucks the R8 accepts an RMR and lights. I'd personally use a shotgun or AR...but that's me. Speaking of which, yesterday my bayonet came in for my Ithaca trench gun project. It's a repro by Atlanta Cutlery. The originals are a fortune, even in less than fair condition. Next month I should get the adapter/heat shield.  20190419_163644 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr I've practiced using the "slam fire" function of that shotgun and it sounds like a semi-automatic going off. It's actually quite useful at close range. Ithaca riot gun shooting | ||
| Ourdee |
For home defense.... I have gone almost entirely to AR pistol training for it. In court with a jury of my peers? Defending the choice of .454 Casull could present it's own problems, even though it shouldn't. The shotgun? Messy. The AR in 5.56 ball or .223 HP seams surgical with less collateral damage and the energy of a .357 magnum. Follow up shots that stay on target without having to settle the weapon. The magazine in it gives me 30 rounds and there are a stack of loaded ones with it and in a bag on the floor. | ||
| Rick_a |
At any rate, a long gun (or properly configured long gun based pistol, I suppose) is always a more suitable tool than a handgun for home defense. I've shown my AR firearm here before. It works quite well. It still bears a relatively bare buffer tube instead of going for one of the fancy braces. Shotguns still have plenty of utility for close range. My 1970's Remington 1100 and 1960's Ithaca have been my faves of their respective types (semi auto and pump). Anything dangerous to a human is going to go through some building materials. An interesting note, I've recently watched an attempted "meltdown" video of a blowback 9mm AR...that fired 5,000+ rounds full auto and was perfectly fine afterwards. A Las Vegas machine gun rental company has stated that their Colt 9mm has endured over 200,000 rounds without failure. It's good to know that such guns will last basically indefinitely with minimal maintenance and upkeep despite hard usage. This is an interesting video on ballistics and ballistic testing. If you've been studying this stuff, there's really nothing new...it's just a tidy overview from some industry experts. The internet lore of "stopping power" and the mythical "knockdown power" as it is often discussed is largely nonsense. Why Ballistics Gel Works and Caliber Arguments are Dumb | ||
| Aesquire |
As I've asserted before, a snub nosed revolver in .357 is an expert's choice. High recoil and muzzle blast, plus the more difficult aiming of a short barrel, combine to make it a poor choice for arthritic wrists and small hands. You may be expert. I am not. The recoil and fireball difference in .38 special is Large, and fits many better. For some, .22 Magnum is even better, despite the terminal deficits. Personally, .38 or 9 mm is fine with me, with the speed and ease of reloading with moon clips giving a nice edge. ( although I have not owned a 9 mm Ruger LCR, it is on my very short list, for some reason they are locally rare used. That's a good sign. ) Removing empties from the clips with the simple tubular tool, should be easy, and they make loading tools for .45 & 10 mm moon clips, but I'm not sure about the 9. It should be easy enough to load, but as I said, have HER try it before buying. Depends on HER hands, not yours. When I had an AR, I loved my LULA loader. I never thumbed a round in by hand after I bought mine. Loading was fast & easy, the manipulation of the lever easy to learn, and being able to safely unload, crazy fast & SAFE was priceless. No cycling through the gun, no loaded magazine spring issues, and, almost as important as not chambering live rounds, easy to be sure all mags were empty for transport. A legal requirement in many states. Well worth the $20 bucks, and highly recommended for any shooter.  I've also completely changed my mind on AR pistols. I originally thought them a useless toy, but now understand the concept. Unfortunately, I can't own one. If I'd caught on before the unSAFE Act, I'd have a legal, grandfathered, registered pistol in my safe. ( until they change the unconstitutional laws again and demand it stolen from me. My guess is this year. ) If I grasp the concept, then a foam covered buffer tube is best, unless you need the handicap brace. Less to snag & lighter. Am I right? | ||
| Aesquire |
The "knock down power" argument is over. But with 2 caveats. Competition shooting with "major & minor" classes. Designed to level the playing field between 1911 .45s and high cap 9s. The self defense handicaps are real. Ball ammo. Big still wins. If you are limited to ball by legal restriction, it's real. If you are limited by what feeds in your gun? Change guns. Modern ammo does not mean .32ACP is good enough, IMHO! But .36-up? Yes. And I'm also now sold on the "screwdriver" ammo. I think brand names, with the testing and design work matters. Generic stuff just is not worth depending on. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I subscribe to the theory that hitting the target with a smaller caliber projectile is better than missing with a larger caliber projectile. Also, pulling the trigger on the revolver and having it go "bang" 100% of the time is better than wondering if there is a round in chamber and possible jams due to a limp wristed shot. Also, a revolver takes away the dilemma of whether or not to store the pistol with a round chambered or not (which was an issue with the Sig 9mm). Obviously, opinions vary on the ideal home defense weapon, but a revolver is going to be the choice for this particular person. Just trying to gather some intel from the knowledgeable folks on Badwab! Good stuff so far... | ||
| Ratbuell |
the dilemma of whether or not to store the pistol with a round chambered or not (which was an issue with the Sig 9mm). Curious about this. My XDs lives with one in the chamber, along with a 7-rd mag, except when I'm cleaning it or putting rounds through it at the range. It's in the safe right now, holstered in my IWB, 7+1. Stainless-casing Critical Duty. Break-trigger and a backstrap safety, always holstered in kydex. With the Sig, was it a safety concern? Other occupants? Chemicals from having a round in the chamber? | ||
| Gregtonn |
For what it's worth I say go with the Ruger 9mm revolver and be done with it. There are plenty of effective ammo choices. The moon clip debate is kind of moot. In most cases people are going to grab the revolver and leave the loaded moon clips wherever they are. G | ||
| Blake |
Good choice. Consider the 65 grain XTreme Defender Ammo from www.underwoodammo.com, reduced recoil, excellent terminal ballistics. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
IIRC correctly, that Sig didn't have a thumb actuated safety, which made her nervous. @Blake--Sounds like that would be the prefect ammo. We can't mail order ammo to our homes anymore so I will have to see how much the local gun shop will extort us for being the middleman. |
