| Author | Message | ||
     Ourdee |
Harlan, The 238 is very well behaved in .380. You may not like the 938 in 9mm. It has a nice jump to it. | ||
| Rick_a |
Bigger guns are not burdensome in the right holster. That said, if I'm carrying a small gun...it'll be a J frame or two.  20180409_093646 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20180220_161227 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20160724_072120 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr  20160428_085721 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr | ||
| Ratbuell |
RD - my four 'off' shots (just barely out of the 8 ring at 30 yards) were 9 o'clock shots - when fatigued (after 50 rounds in 2 minutes) I do tend to weak-hand a bit. But practice will certainly help with that  Speaking of...my go-to for nice bulk ammunition for target practice has been Georgia Arms. Anyone have any other good sources? | ||
| Ourdee |
.45acp, I have been known to carry my practice ammo. I've also been known to buy off Armslist or Craigslist near Christmas when people want cash to shop. I like finding crazy deals on 500 to 1000 rounds. I don't carry that ammo. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
So critical. It doesn't take alot of time to get rusty, especially if your have alot of different weapons. The local outdoor gun range is close to my house and one of the few things my Dad still actually enjoys is shooting. So it's good bonding time and keeps our skills sharp. For those looking for ammo, I ordered ALOT of ammo before this damn State outlawed mail order ammo last year. I would stay away from the Fiocchi 3 Gun 12 ga 00 BUCK 9 Pellet as it's not 00 buck (at least from what I believe to be 00 buck size pellets). https://www.ammosupplywarehouse.com/ ammosupplywarehouse.com | ||
| Chauly |
I just spoke with my local range (On Target); they have a list of ammo that they don't allow, for various reasons: Tula Geco Bear Wolf Red Army. Any others that might be suspect? I've seen some Chinese junk with steel, laquered cases. It made me cringe to think about feeding it into anything except maybe some vintage army rifle from Elbonia... | ||
| Ratbuell |
The range I use, long as you fire your own weapon, will let you bring whatever up to a certain caliber/power, simply because of their backstop ratings. Use one of their weapons (rental, purchase "test-drive", etc), you have to use ammunition purchased from them. | ||
| Chauly |
The curious thing is they don't seem to mind using handloads. | ||
| Ratbuell |
My range doesn't either. If you're firing your own weapon. Most hand loads are slow, carefully done rounds - quite different than mass-produced reloads, to an extent. Although as I said, I have had excellent experience with the G-A "cowboy load" canned heat, which use single-fired casings. Zero failures thus far (.308 and .38), clean burns, not a lot of crap to clean out, and consistent power/recoil/trajectory. Was planning to spring for some 9mm, but also intrigued by the bulk loads from ammosupplywarehouse that was mentioned above...nice pricing, especially on their 2k quantities. Experience with them, anyone? Strictly for target...my home protection loads are Hornady Critical Defense. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Te2IqFbRR7A https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8z1wSamsXLs The end result, the XM-8, was a AR-18 action in a polymer shell. Plastic has replaced bent sheet metal for cost and speed of production. Much nicer to hold, too, imagine a Glock or XDS made like a Liberty. ( the single shot .45 meant to be dropped to resistance fighters in WW2 ) Folk who own Liberty reproduction guns love to let people try them and few try one twice. The XM-8 has a proprietary "rail" system, that would have been nice on the market, if it had been purchased by the Army.... But never had a shot at success. In retrospect, it might have been the same great idea we now have in Keymod & M-loc. No sharp edges, light weight, no extra bulk to catch on every twig, strap, etc. I think the M-LOC system might be the better choice all things being equal. Except, maybe, return to zero. Any feedback from M-Loc users? But things aren't equal. You can't get the H&K system without paying to make bits custom. The XM-29, was ahead of it's time. Too bulky, complex, and expensive. The grenade launcher part was superseded by a 25mm dedicated smart grenade gun, because the smaller grenade didn't have enough room for the computer systems and explosives. The idea is brilliant. The tech, bleeding edge. And in combat, works fairly well, but at $10,000 a shot, practical? It may end up being replaced in concept with $2000 mini drones with mini Claymore payloads. The extra cost over a commercial go pro drone would be mostly in frequency hopping radios and dust/water resistant controls and motors. ( you don't want a flying hand grenade to get jammed, or detonated when you flip on the handheld control. ) Drone warfare is big today in Ukraine and starting to make a mark in Obama's wars in Syria/Iraq/etc. I don't think they'll replace a shotgun for home defense, except for the very rich, anytime soon. But I can already hear Joe Biden telling us we don't need them..... If anyone is stupid enough to take advice from a guy who told people to commit negligent and premeditated murder by shooting through doors at unidentified people. | ||
| Bandm |
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| Fresnobuell |
Experience with the company or the brands of 9mm rounds they offer in 2K lots? I will vouch for the company thru about half a dozen fulfilled orders. The only brand I have used of the three is the Magtech brand in .40 caliber. It performed fine for target practice. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Magtech was one of the brands I'm looking at, given their $/round...good to know they're reliable. | ||
| Ourdee |
All my Magtech experience has been good. Mind you, it hasn't been over 2000 rounds. But, close. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/12/dems_ promise_quick_action_on_gun_control_in_january.htm l Will not obey. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/12/g un_confiscation_begins_in_new_jersey.html We've had this in New York for some years now. If State Police catch you with a box with a spring, aka magazine, they throw the book at you and steal your property. But so far, no one in the Imperium has initiated open war on the subjects with door to door assaults. So far. I'm just guessing but over a million Citizens apparently chose not to obey, or did so quietly, divesting themselves of banned items without sending unsolicited documentation to the Emperor's minions. The law didn't require any such paperwork, and thus no one created any. Result, well over a million people that may or may not have property the Emperor banned in the middle of the night. I, as previously mentioned, don't have any such items, but the Police have no way of knowing that. Thus I am a threat as great as the guy down the street who kept his banned items, just stashed them in the barn, or under the bed..... No one knows. I didn't do any paperwork when I gave a Mossberg shotgun combo to a friend so he could go hunting when he was too broke to get his own. There's no paperwork to document giving my AR clone to a Marine son of a friend in a foreign State. Nor for any other gift or trade I've ever made. Plenty of paperwork detailing every item purchased at retail for the last 4 decades, from whenever it became a requirement. Before that it was all trades and deals with other citizens. I expect that to continue no matter what our wannabe masters desire. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/12/is_th e_national_rifle_association_dying.html Why is the NRA so hated? Support for your rights? Yeah, but it's deeper than that. The NRA in it's early years, went to Black churches to teach marksmanship and safety, as per their charter. It's what the NRA was created for. The citizen's training so the armed forces would have a pool of citizens already capable of carrying a rifle without being a danger to others. Being good shots was the idea, too. The Klan Party never forgot that the NRA helped make lynching and cross burning less fun. They will never forgive that. | ||
| Tootal |
Quite true but they, the left, won't believe you. I used to get glares back when I wore a NRA belt buckle. I loved it when they attacked me verbally because then the debate started. I've never lost that debate. Benefactor Member NRA and proud of it. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Perhaps large-scale open carry would be the answer. Sheeple don't understand guns. Just like most cagers don't understand motorcycles - it just isn't worth their limited capacity to bother learning. All they know about guns, is from the MSM ("guns are bad, mmmkaay?") - they have no experience of all the citizens who regularly carry a firearm, and it doesn't "go off", doesn't start a "mass killing", and doesn't turn its owner into evil incarnate. Perhaps if there were more guns out in the open, it would drive home the point that the instrument isn't the problem. Forks don't make people fat, and pencils don't misspell words. The problem isn't the GUN. The problem is the CRIMINAL who's holding it during the commission of a crime. If nothing else, maybe some more open carry would encourage some manners, and DIScourage some of these mass shootings because the cowards who perform them would see that the sheep might fight back. And as noted above - the Klan got mad when lynchings and cross-burnings became less fun because the targets were fighting back. The drawback being, of course, that open carry makes the person carrying into the primary target. But if it wasn't A citizen carrying, and instead was MANY citizens...well...I suppose we'll never know. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Our fore fathers were brilliant for many reasons, including writing the 2nd Amendment. What could stop tyranny better than the right of the citizens to bear arms and protect themselves? The gov't doesn't fear criminals or mass shooters--they fear the law abiding, gun owner. Too bad the lefty idiots who clamor to take guns from the law-abiding citizens don't understand this. | ||
| Ourdee |
Those that drive the take over do. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Perhaps large-scale open carry would be the answer.  | ||
| Fresnobuell |
As some know, California recently decided to ban the sale of "assault weapons" and force those who currently own said "assault weapons" to pay a fee for the privilege of registering the firearms by 7/1/18. If the owner did not register the firearm by the deadline, the person basically had to convert the firearm to a "featureless" rifle OR was in violation of the law by owning an unregistered "assault weapon" (a felony, of course). Soooo, while I abhor this State's politics and gun control, I also don't need some over-zealous LEO at the range giving me a hard time and potentially being convicted of a felony crime. There was also some dipshit Mexican in a farm town around here who shot his neighbor's dog with an AR or AK (he had both) and one of the charges was "in possession of an unregistered assault weapon." Not that I would ever do such a thing, but it does get one thinking. Anyhow, the best solution is to convert the rifle to a "fixed" magazine, where the action must be broke to remove the magazine. Here is the solution, I installed in my AR over the weekend. My Dad has had one for a few months and it's very functional (unlike some of the other "CA Compliant" solutions available for purchase.) The best part is nothing has to be modified on the rifle. It's one screw that affixes the magazine in the rile and in event of a SHTF scenario, you can convert back to regular function with the removal of the single screw. After installing the CompMag, I even went ahead and removed my bullet button completely and installed a regular button release, along with a Troy Industry ambi magazine release (both of which had been on my shelf for years!) The Troy Industries Ambi Mag release is sweet and works perfectly, which makes it worth it's cost. Highly recommended.     | ||
| Tootal |
I was thinking about how to make some high capacity magazines legal by making a blank that would go between the spring and the shell ramp. If you can disassemble the magazine and place a properly machined spacer in there then your long magazine could be made legal for now yet easily switch back if the laws change or you move. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I wonder if a 30 rd magazine with a spacer would be legal in this damn state. Is it legal to have a 30 rd. magazine if it's disassembled? I basically don't see much of a difference between the two. Both of them could be made to hold 30 rounds and operational in seconds. | ||
| Ourdee |
Or you just hide or have a friend out of State hold your 30s. And you buy some 10s. | ||
| Tootal |
It's legal to put a plug in a shotgun so it only holds three or four rounds. What would be the difference? | ||
| Aesquire |
The local gun shop won't touch anything that looks like it might be an AR or AK. Doesn't matter if it's a single shot cast of bronze. Their reasoning is that you WILL get harassed by Law enforcement if you show up at the range or in the wild with an object that looks at all like it might be a banned thing. And harassment includes taking the gun to be examined and never returned without you spending thousands in legal fees, and if you are the rare stubborn one who pays $5000-$40,000 to get back a $2000 rifle, odds are very good that any accessories have been stolen, mounts broken off, and the gun rusted and damaged beyond reasonable repair. The response of the bureaucracy to complaints about that? "shut up and get out or we'll arrest you." ( Actual quote, name protected to protect him from retaliation. ) So, they strongly advise against my proposed AR look alike bolt gun, or any middle finger to the Governor perfectly legal loophole item. As they said, you can't win, and they'd prefer a repeat customer, instead of getting hounded out of business as some other shops have been. ( 3 am raid, all inventory confiscated, and a press release about how the owner is a filthy terrorist scum selling illegal assault weapons, and we don't need his kind around here.... before charges are filed and gag orders issued. Seems to be SOP. Outcome of trial? Shut up or..... ) | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I believe there are shops that have to get some sort of certification to work on "AW"s. I am convinced this State wanted people to miss the 7/1/18 deadline and become potential felons. Why else would they leave the deadline and all the ramifications of missing said deadline up to strictly word of mouth? They didn't even bother to mail out courtesy notices to the registered owners of the affected firearms. Pretty asinine considering the potential fallout, ie becoming a felon. This is all beside the fact that their wonderful online registration system was non-existent for the original deadline of 1/1/18 and only "worked" starting the weekend before the revised 7/1/18 deadline. I say "worked" loosely because there are reports of people trying unsuccessfully to register for the better part of the weekend. But the libs in charge won't cut any breaks to the pseudo-criminals here in CA, ie legal gun owners...meanwhile the real criminals go on doing their business as usual. The whole thing is a flippin' joke. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I am not sure. Shotgun magazines are not removable. That might make a difference? Or perhaps the spacer is to reduce capacity for hunters and even if the spacer is removed the shotgun is still under the 10 round limitation? What I have seen with the 10 round pistol magazines is they are made with a technique where it's impossible (or extremely difficult) to convert to high capacity. My experience in trying to convert a 10 rd to 15 rd is limited to S&W .40 caliber mags, but I don't think other manufacturers put in spacers either. It's more like the 10 rd mags are single stacked and there is something physically built in the magazine to prevent it from being double stacked to full capacity. (Message edited by fresnobuell on December 18, 2018) | ||
| Aesquire |
The PURPOSE of that legislation is to make you a felon. |
