| Author | Message | ||
     Ourdee |
Knew it was coming. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
Even old RINOS die eventually. | ||
| Ebutch |
He voted 53% of the time Republican!  | ||
| Aesquire |
He should be honored for his service, remembered for his bravery in captivity under torture, and replaced by someone who has policies I agree with more. I don't see the need to knock his memory, just because I disagreed with him, often, nor to pick on any of his recent comments with severe brain disease. He's gone, he gets a pass. I expect a giant funeral with utterly classless, dishonest, people pimping their own importance and using the theater of his passing to make political hay. Unfortunately, it's only in bad movies that a meteor strike, or terrorist bomb would end the festivities as soon as the maximum number of scum was assembled to exploit his death. Which game had a meteor lure? I want one. | ||
| Court |
Wow Tough crowd. | ||
| Crusty |
R.I.P. John. You were a true American. | ||
| Aesquire |
Tough crowd? Yep. The power of the office of Senator has lost it's ability to awe me. The concept of "respect the office, not the man" has, over time, been so abused, as to be meaningless. I can respect those I disagree with. But simply being the Aristocracy of the Government no longer has any respect. It's been burned away by moral relativism and subjective lack of truth. We have 100 "Miss America pageant winners", instead of responsible adults. Thus, "Senator" has no magic to force respect. It's up to the flawed humans that we hire & pay, to do the job we don't have the time or desire to do, to Earn respect. Few have. McCain earned respect, even if he was of a differing ideology, Party, or opinion. And the Harpies even now arguing over their positions in the circus we are about to watch, or ignore, deserve contempt, in advance, because they will horribly, predictably, make the funeral celebration of a heroes life into self promotion, and declarations of hatred to gain power. | ||
| Rick_a |
He was a prime example of the globalist progressive RINO and how much I despise the over politicization of everything. I hate political theater and he was always an actor. It always makes me wonder how people get to the point of peddling nonsense as a matter of course. I don't know the guy as a man...just his public persona...and I am not a fan of his brand of political activism. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Mixed feelings about this guy. May he rest in peace. | ||
| 86129squids |
I'm with ya, Court. Rest in peace, Senator, and thank you for your devotion and service to our country. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Some of yall get so wrapped up in politics you lose your humanity. Also, how many of you voted for him in 08? I didnt agree with some of his ideas, but it really sucks he had to suffer as much as he did and then the pain his loved ones are going through with his passing. RIP McCain | ||
| Ourdee |
I more than thank him for his service. RIP John. I'll put the pegs down for him. I don't know if the ride would be considered heaven or hell, but, I extend the offer. | ||
| H0gwash |
I'm happy that he survived Vietnam but so sorry he did not survive the Senate. | ||
| 86129squids |
"Some of y'all get so wrapped up in politics you lose your humanity." Sad, but so true nowadays. I had to hit Wallyworld today, and there were girls at the entrances taking money for "Wreaths Across USA", they were all high school Air Force ROTC... I made sure to throw in a few $$$ in memory of Senator McCain, and my dad, who was USAF Korea. Prayers up for Cindy McCain and his family, friends. | ||
| Gregtonn |
Tough crowd. As it should be. Having lived it Arizona for almost 20 years he has pissed me off more times than I can count. The spiteful vote against Trump and for Obamacare really did it for me. He should have retired years ago. I respect the fact that, like many of us, he served his country. Hopefully he will be replaced by someone with honestly conservative views. G | ||
| Hootowl |
Thank you for saying that. I didn't want to speak ill of the dead. In my mind, he’s the poster boy for term limits. Actually, there are many people on that poster. | ||
| Sifo |
Simple reality... He was a mixed bag. In recent years, he got worse and worse for conservatism. His passing doesn't change that. | ||
| 86129squids |
"I expect a giant funeral with utterly classless, dishonest, people pimping their own importance and using the theater of his passing to make political hay. Unfortunately, it's only in bad movies that a meteor strike, or terrorist bomb would end the festivities as soon as the maximum number of scum was assembled to exploit his death. Which game had a meteor lure? I want one." Really, Patrick? Your regularly scheduled loquaciosness just descended to logorrhea. https://www.npr.org/2018/08/26/642046096/mccain-to -lie-in-state-at-u-s-and-arizona-capitols Go ahead and flame me for not sourcing that from Breitbart or whomever's news you trust. Good God, nothing's sacred anymore. | ||
| Aesquire |
I assumed there would be a gathering of speechifying pols, self promoting, and being horrible. I certainly wouldn't condone hitting any Capitol rotunda with kinetic strikes. Heaven forbid. Bad citizenship, save them for book burnings. | ||
| Two_seasons |
As a U.S. Navy veteran, I hold other veterans to a higher standard. Mr. McCain violated his oath to the US Constitution, as an officer in the USN, the citizens of Arizona and the United States of America at large. We've all made mistakes. However, maturity is supposed to make us reflect, redefine our character as we age. And we should be honest about who we were before we actually came to the point where we acknowledged our own character flaws. It would seem to me that as John McCain aged, he became spiteful and vindictive! John McCain found himself in the middle of much that is wrong within the USA over the last 60 years. You've heard the saying "True character is how you act when you think no one is watching" right? Problem was, McCain was caught time and again trying to explain his lack of character, explaining away his lack of honesty and integrity as he saw it. Lack of maturity, over time, takes it's toll. He alone continued to blame others for the mistakes he made once he decided to enter politics. Keating 5, Gang of 8, and the Obamacare repeal NO vote are but a couple of times he showed his true character! In summary, John McCain became part of the establishment that he said he despised! | ||
| Rick_a |
When these "progressives" open their mouths I wonder, "Constitution, can you read it?" The modern reinterpretation is activist nonsense. Civics is trying to be devolved into a matter of public opinion by the "muh democracy" mobs. Thankfully that's not how anything works. Everything is stupid. The A.C.A. was a sham. I sure hope "muh legacy" is repealed. | ||
| Chauly |
Careful about the meteor: they tend to be inaccurate, and I'm only 20 miles away... | ||
| Macbuell |
I voted for him on '08 and liked him up until that point. He seemed to change during the Obama years ... and then I lost a lot of respect for him for the way he acted since Trump started running and then won the election and more specifically how he torpedoed the Obamacare repeal. That said and recent behavior aside, I have tremendous respect for his service to the country. RIP and my thoughts and prayers go out to his family. | ||
| Sifo |
I lost a lot of respect for him when he came out saying that torture simply doesn't work. It worked on him though. He caved, and told what he could. I can forgive that. When he then claims that it doesn't work, he is flat out lying. Had he used his first hand experience with torture to explain the virtues of not engaging in the practice, I would have found that to be worthwhile. Instead he simply told lies. Not that what we engaged in as enhanced interrogation had any resemblance to the methods used by the North Vietnamese. Since that time, he seemed to relish in being the "maverick" of the Republican party. It's one thing to be a maverick in leadership. It's quite another to be a maverick, throwing a wrench into the works. McCain became more of the latter. | ||
| Big_island_rider |
Thank you for your service. Rest in peace. Thoughts and strength to his family. Did not agree with all his views and votes but my opinions do not diminish his service to our country. | ||
| 86129squids |
"I hope we can again rely on humility, on our need to cooperate, on our dependence on each other to learn how to trust each other again and by so doing better serve the people who elected us. Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the Internet. To hell with them. They don't want anything done for the public good. Our incapacity is their livelihood." | ||
| Macbuell |
Edit ... I think that stuff was bs. I didn't like who he turned into after he lost to Obama or his actions in relation to Trump, specifically how he torpedoed the Obamacare repeal but I'm not going to propagate lies. Thanks for your service and RIP. (Message edited by Macbuell on August 28, 2018) | ||
| 86129squids |
Just noticed that the flag at the park next to my house hadn't been lowered to half-staff. Fixed it, after listening to an hour of interviews with him on my local NPR station. | ||
| Hootowl |
Regarding compromise with the left, the right has been doing that for decades. The result has been a shift to the left. The left never compromises. We’ve reached a point where there is little common ground. They want communism. I do not. They don’t believe a baby geographically disadvantaged by living on the wrong side of a uterus is a human being. I do. The big issues facing us do not have a compromise position. The loud voices did not create this condition. | ||
| Aesquire |
Heck, I've crashed more than he has.  I just fly much slower aircraft & no one shoots Soviet missiles at me. Don't feel the need to disrespect him. I've already had one great pilot from that damn war had his reputation ruined and sent to prison for corruption. Unless you count Congress as a worse reference than Federal Prison, which I might agree with, McCain still served & deserves credit for it. I can make a good case for Treason with Kerry. McCain had every right to disagree and disrespect the current President. And hold his disagreement with the previous one. So do I. So do you. If he was alive & we argued? Didn't happen. Won't ever, now. I got nothing rude to say to his legacy, fans, or haters. |
