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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2018 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rick, where are the photos from?
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2018 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2018/ 5/21/fbi-report-highlights-effectiveness-of-concea led-carry/
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2018 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Drug prohibition, alcohol, gave organized crime the boost from small time, to dominate position in America. When booze prohibition ended, there were a LOT of new cops dedicated to busybody anti fun programs, so they just changed drugs. Thus MOST Mexican organized crime is really the gringo's fault, like it or not.

When the majority of prison cells and violent crime is ultimately from prohibition, you know the problem isn't drugs, it's bad laws.

Look at Colorado. The idiots wrote New Bad Laws. Added to the old bad laws, violent robbery went up. High New sin taxes led to tax evasion, in the form of black market expansion, & oh, yeah, organized crime. California followed suit with New Bad Laws.

It's a Bad Thing. And notice "freedom to catch a buzz" for political reasons, is tied to "violate 2nd Amendment rights" .

Not going to argue the relative damage from drug abuse, one drug or another. We'd need a different thread, so Julie could argue crack is good for you and we should eat tide pods. ; )

The libertarian side of me, says end prohibition, free up the resources, and end the police war on citizens. Prohibition
, gun control, and traffic tickets are the prime causes of friction between the People, and Police. Traffic control is universally acknowledged as necessary. This is the gun crank thread.

Rational prohibition repeal, without taxes so high it encourages black market expansion, would reduce our need to carry guns.

Only no humans makes them unneeded.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2018 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/second-amen dment-slavery-nyt-piece-misleading-claims/

Again, pointing out exactly how the other guy is lying is necessary. But won't ever convince the liar. He has deliberately chosen to lie. He knows he lies. He not only doesn't care that He lies, he is joyfully lying and congratulating himself on how clever he is.

You correct the lies for the lied to.
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The photos were googled. They are hard to find. I recall seeing those specific images a day or two after the shooting. Once the pro leftist state media made it about "assault weapons" the story disappeared.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.old-yankee.com/rkba/racial_laws.html

Notice the Tennessee law of 1870? The first of the many "Saturday Night Special" laws passed over the years to ban inexpensive hand guns, to keep them out of the hands of the poor, and especially, the Negro.

Required all to buy MILITARY GRADE GUNS. aka current issue weapons of war.

Basically, every gun control law passed before WW1 was anti-black in motivation. After WW1, the motivation gradually became a total ban on citizens with guns, with the growing influence of Marxism & it's many lying names in U.S. politics.

Oh, they still want the Negro, unarmed, without family support, poor, on the Urban Plantation, dependent on their Masters, and Voting For The Klan.

But they have bigger aims today. Everyone On The Plantation. Or Living the Green life in Urban Dependency.

Who was it whose names were Legion?
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://pjmedia.com/drhelen/surrender-your-firearm s-within-24-hours-or-be-shot/

After the Nazis were kicked out of Norway, the police took all the gun ownership records that the rational, reasonable, gun control laws created before the war, and publicly burned them in the town square. The Nazis used those records to go door to door, and collect future resistance fighters.

The Nazis also practiced decimation. Roman practice of gathering all the men in the town square and shooting every tenth man to punish the people for resistance activity. This made the town folk afraid to cooperate with the resistance, and encouraged them to inform. After a few passes of decimation, "Stockholm Syndrome" happened and people started blaming the freedom fighters, instead of the occupation.

As the records burned in 1945, trucks went around handing out guns to anyone who didn't have any. All over Norway, despite very strict gun control laws today, under closet floors and rosemaled wooden trim, there is an astonishing number of submachine guns and ammo. It is not to be spoken of. The police pretend it away. Crime with these hidden weapons is unheard of, and swiftly, severely punished, and reporting suppressed.

Split personality country? Yah, you betcha.

Warrior race. Peaceful people. And a huge number goes on a cross country ski marathon to commemorate the smuggling of the disputed heir to the throne, a baby, across Norway on skis to escape his murder.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkebeinerrennet

An off the record discussion with a gun shop somewhere far away in an imaginary land, revealed that they keep the legally mandated sales records in a safely locked file cabinet. With several gallons of flammable liquid in the bottom drawer. On wheels. Locked to the wall. Near the back door.

Safety first!
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Recently read that some of the new plastic molded "Phillips screwdriver" bullets in .380 acp actually have the penetration and terminal ballistic effects to be viable self defense options.

Previously, FMJ bullets had the penetration ( about a foot, plus, is considered minimum to reach vital organs ) but not the "impact" or damage potential to " let the angry out".

Yeah, polite euphemisms for unpleasant realities. : )

While hollow points failed in penetration goals, and May cause feeding problems in some semiautomatic pistols.

Thus the .380 has long been considered sub marginal as a good choice.

If you are a "gotta start with a 4" guy, then you won't really care, but for deep concealed carry States, like New York, where it's not unusual for someone at a restaurant to freak and call the cops if they catch a glimpse of your pistol, small helps. It also helps if you are more spherical than you'd like, since body shape can really be a concealed carry issue, as does summer clothing. The Ladies especially don't tend to dress in suits or vests, and even then, form fitting fashion rules.

And unless you look like you spend your retirement fund in an Indian Casino, fanny packs just scream "gun" to modern eyes.

Sneaky Pete does have "tablet" holsters, but I'm skeptical about how obvious they are.

Thus pocket & ankle holsters seem the only option for many.

Gun safes bolted under car seats are an option if you never leave the car. ; )
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I carry these

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Shoggin
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"more spherical than you like" dang you much funny good time: )

Spherical of not, be honest with your clothing choice. If I was the type to believe in our constitution and carry in Commie-fornia every day, I would have a closet full of comfortable pants, and shorts, and shirts, just like a spherical person should. Just because you wore 38" Jorts in high school, doesn't mean you can't buy 44" Jorts today; ) Isn't the point of 'EDC' to do it every day?

As a past resident of hot places, the simplest solution for me might always end up being a trigger guard on a G43 right in left front pocket of pants with loose/deep pockets. Surprisingly a G23 fits pretty well too. Allegedly.

The tablet holsters scream pistol to me also, as do fanny packs. Don't get me started on FDE 'go-bags' with molle and a big 5.11 tag way to conceal, bro... and take off that Kimber hat they gave you at the last show.

To your point about car safes, I agree it's better in your car with you, than at home without you.

(Message edited by shoggin on May 27, 2018)
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 30 inch waist. But a size 34 fits so well that I buy a 36. ; )
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot, how do you think the cross shape will work on Vampires? ; )

( Zombies are passe, but if Buffy could carry these! No more Twilight! )

One of my favorite shirts reads "and then Buffy Staked Edward. The End "

(Message edited by Aesquire on May 27, 2018)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also carry the Underwood variant of the Lehigh .380.

In fact I have them in my 9mm and .357`s as well.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I imagine that whatever you hit with the 357 underwood will simply explode.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They work even better lubricated with a little holy water.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 02:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a size 32 waist, but I carry big guns IWB and use a size 34 for that.

I still have some 36's from when I was big and needed 36's. If I gain weight again I'll have like, two pairs...

The Ruger ARX ammo with the fluted boolits is the only ammunition that's ever jammed up my Glock...a failure to feed.

The upper for the M4A1 SOPMOD block II project is at home, disassembled, and the barrel is awaiting getting sent off for pinning/welding an A2 FH @ 14.7" for a 16" length.

An Eotech XPS2-2, fancy Knights front sight (MK12 / MK18 RAS Front Folding Sight), and Matech rear will be on layaway here, soon.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As the records burned in 1945, trucks went around handing out guns to anyone who didn't have any. All over Norway, despite very strict gun control laws today, under closet floors and rosemaled wooden trim, there is an astonishing number of submachine guns and ammo. It is not to be spoken of. The police pretend it away.

I showed your post to a friend of mine who's been to Norway and is returning soon. Here was his response:

Inger and I went to the museum at the location of the old Grini prison camp(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grini_detention_ca mp). Amongst it’s displays was a cache of weapons, from the post WWII era, that a widow had found under the floor boards of her house. Her husband had put them there years before and she knew nothing about their presence. This gives credence to the story you sent me.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I consider the Underwood stuff to be the very best, so I ditch the rest.

Just ordered 40 boxes of Controlled Chaos for my SHTF rifle.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Before The Invasion, guns for the militia were kept, safe and proper, in the local armory. So when the German troops started coming off the cruise ships in harbor, the militia went to go get arms to repel them.

The pro-Nazi community organizer types were already there, and locked out the citizens.

The Nazi troops immediately took the telegraph, radio & police stations, pulled the records of who had a gun at home, and with their lists, went door to door disarming or killing, as required.

Thus, after the war, the idea was to hide the guns. No records. Then, like the rest of Europe, the Leftists passed strict gun control laws, but the older generation just didn't turn in all the hidden weapons. The police didn't push on the subject, since buried guns were not in circulation, and posed no threat.

The Scandahoovian nations are outwardly super peaceful, except Finland, that fought against both Germany and Russia, and still has an attitude. ; )

The peaceful myth is kind of a mass denial propaganda, where they celebrate their past warlike nature, "but we aren't like that anymore" . I'm not sure who they are really trying to fool. Themselves, or trying to con the rest of Europe that they won't conquer them anymore.

American leftist mythology is that urban lefties are peaceful, but country rednecks are violent idiots.

I notice the folk breaking windows and looting aren't wearing bib overalls and there are very few arsons at the farm subsidy ralley.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Woohoo! They just emailed me... I'm getting a free hat for spending over $1000!
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Free hat! Free hat!
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

American leftist mythology is that urban lefties are peaceful, but country rednecks are violent idiots.



I laugh, but it's totally true. "Ammosexual" is the new term de jour, and all guns are "killing machines" that "liberals" now taunt will be taken if "we" don't embrace "common sense." This is mainstream stuff from family members and "friends" on social media. They don't even bother hiding it anymore. Just tell them you believe in your rights and a tirade is immediately triggered.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Scandahoovian nations are outwardly super peaceful, except Finland, that fought against both Germany and Russia, and still has an attitude.

You mean like when the Russians tried to invade and Finland only lost 25,000 men and Russia lost 250,000! Fins are bad ass!
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The SBR with a new stock. It's more comfortable than the hard plastic cheese grater and holds a copy of the tax stamp nicely.


(Message edited by Rick_a on May 29, 2018)
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ammosexual! Now that's funny! I need a new T-shirt!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2018 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2018 - 03:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/05/knif e-control-in-the-u-k.php

Excuse me while I sharpen my assault boning knife. I'm installing a bayonet mount on my garlic press.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2018 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/30 /army-ranger-who-survived-benghazi-mocks-david-hog gs-gun-control-tweet/
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2018 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://pjmedia.com/trending/california-city-to-aw ard-stipends-up-to-1k-month-to-those-deemed-most-l ikely-to-shoot-somebody/

I think I should volunteer for this program. I could really use $1000 a month, and I'll quit reading & watching the news so I won't feel the desire to shoot anybody. ; )
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2018 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A question for the experienced crew here.

Taurus Spectrum?

I originally & hastily assumed the Spectrum was a gimmick and the polymer grip bits were "gonna get ugly" bad ideas in a wear everyday gun.

But. I got to handle, but not dry fire one, and it felt good. Quality seemed fine.

https://www.taurusspectrum.com

Any experience or opinions?
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