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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2017 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court I am amazed by those things you do and marvel at the intellect of engineers like Blake and yourself, and lest we forget Mr. Buell.

It is so awesome to see you guys, as with so many of BadWeB's finest, at the top level of the World's intellectual pool doing your work.

I love watching this kind of work being done and have many questions to ask from a layman's position.

Some of the things I have done body and paint work on do this kind of work. From the tractor trailers that haul large dozers and excavators, to the excavators, back hoes, track hoes, triaxle dumps, huge front loaders,even drag line boom extensions, and their huge buckets, fleets of boom trucks, and such. I Have operated all of these kinds of equipment a matter of moving them to access them for repairs. With the exception of a two month stint on a D8 and a 330 excavator, and thousands of hours on my tractors, I didn't get to operate but few of them in the field. Found out that I would rather be the director and watch them do their stuff.

But for winning the wrong argument with my dad as a teen, I now know An early secondary education could have taken me places I could never have dreamed possible.

Greg, let's bury a barge under your house. Make it look like it is not there, then add on a new garage to fit over a D9 at one end that will remain at the ready. House starts to sink again tote that up the street to safety!
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Court
Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2017 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>I now know An early secondary education could have taken me places I could never have dreamed possible.

Don't think you haven't lived a dream . . . . I marvel at ALL the stories, takes, foibles and faux faux here on Badweb.

When someone says "body and paint work" or "welding" to me . . . . I drop to a knee in hero worship. I have great admiration . . . particularly, in the world of Buell, watching the folks when we were actually building bodywork from scratch for the S2 and seeing the work that Jim Bantz did on some projects.

It's so cool . . .in each of these discussions to see the awesome collective power that's made Badweb the center of the Buell universe for so many years.

Very cool stuff . . .
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2017 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here here. I am constantly amazed by people in this community. I meet people that have crammed centuries of living into decades. Incredibly deep thought into the space of a puddle. An understanding of pallet and a blend of knowledge of human nature culminating in subtle nuances I watch others race by without a clue. The more I open my eyes, the more I'm stood on my ear. I have learned to not preconceive a picture while it is rolling off of one of your tongue having life breathed in to it. I was a guest in a man from the Volunteer States house this year. A man with a heart to big for his clothes. Even his dog smiled on me. I never cease to be blessed by my Brothers in Buells. Someone showed me what they were doing last year. I laughed so hard at myself later that evening. I had a preconceived notion develop as they explained it to me. Then they showed me a picture of their work. I had so underestimated the work they were explaining I had no words. I was awe struck.
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Tootal
Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2017 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everybody's ignorant, just in different subjects! Will Rogers
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Griffmeister
Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2017 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So when the house is stabilized do you get to sit out front and watch your neighbors slide by?

At least the mine is collapsing from a simple lack of support and not like the one in Centralia, PA that's been burning since 1962.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, December 11, 2017 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My house and another one on another cul-de-sac above me are the only ones showing damage even though the whole neighborhood was moving. They are installing the round pipe sections today and are going to grout them and hook them up to the brackets. The grout will be set up by tomorrow and they might try a lift. We'll see.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, December 11, 2017 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They got a lot done today:











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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They started lifting today:





They got it up a hair over an inch:









They started to lift the ceiling away from the wall. At that point they quit and need to release the I-beam pole and lift the beam to keep things together. It's actually holding the walls down while the roof raises:



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Tootal
Posted on Friday, December 15, 2017 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When they started lifting it was leaving the cornerstone so they had to add another pier:





They also took out my I-beam supports by using 4X6's and jacks. Took out the footings and piered them.









We got the corner up over 2" but I was told that at the pressures on the jacks we could crack the house in half. They were at 800 psi. We had agreed that leveling the house was too big of a move and that we should concentrate on getting it flat. They did a real good job of "flattening" the floors upstairs. Getting the doors to close etc. I ended up with more cracking of dry wall but when you walk down the hallway you don't pick up speed anymore! By lifting the end and back of the house and dialing in the I-beam it became livable again.

They are taking out the rest of the concrete basement floor today. Next week I have to remove the furnace since they will pour a new floor on Friday. New Furnace back in on Monday. I think a space heater can keep it from freezing for a couple of days. I will probably crash at a friends house over the weekend.
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86129squids
Posted on Friday, December 15, 2017 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dang- what a job! Very cool to witness via your posts, buddy, keep 'em coming!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, December 15, 2017 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Greg_e
Posted on Friday, December 15, 2017 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Neat, I was wondering about the floor and needing anchors in the middle of the floor.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 07:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, man that is a hell of a project. Thanks for letting us watch and learn.
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2017 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So they sent the guy with 20 years experience on the last lift and as explained above he just wanted to flatten the house because he was afraid of cracking it with too much of a lift. I started thinking about that and realized that their engineers must not have considered that the footing under the garage is not going to let the house move very much. They would have to excavate under my garage floor to get to the West wall. So lifting anywhere near the West side would of had to lift the buried footing. Unless you pier that footing your not going anywhere. So I think they sold me on the idea of getting it level, although they made sure I understood they can't guaranty a lift. So I ended up with a compromise but one that I can live with. The fact that the house will be stable I will feel better about making other repairs.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, December 18, 2017 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This years Christmas decorations:





This root is what caused all the major cracks in the basement floor:





They put waterproofing on all the walls and today they put a protective board over that:





I just talked to the concrete guy and they want to pour the floor under my sliding glass doors but the floor is higher than the door. So I'm heading out to see if I can raise the door frame up to compensate. I hope there's some room there.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, December 18, 2017 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Isn't that their job to make sure the door fits the work they are doing?
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, December 18, 2017 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The original builder put the door on the patio slab instead of the basement floor. The slab was lower. This guy wants to extend the floor under the door, as it should have been, and therefore the floor is higher than the pad. So I'm glad he wants to do it correctly and I did check it and there's a 2X6 above the door that will unscrew and allow me to raise it.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, December 18, 2017 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, that makes more sense.
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2017 - 04:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am sure it was said earlier and I probably missed it but those anchors are heavily used in the electrical utility industry. Sold them by the semi load in the double helix like you have pictured and tge single.
They a an afapter for installing them its about 18” long when it twists the anchor has hit proper torque.
They are now letting a similar product be used up here in MN in place of deck footings.
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Tootal
Posted on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So they got the drain tile put in and started covering everything in gravel:





Here you can see the drain tile, one of the piers and the gutter drain line:





Here is one of the piered post concreted in:





I had to remove my furnace so I lifted the AC A coil up with some ratchet straps. I drill two half inch holes in the floor joist and stuck a couple of half inch bolts in there. It pulled up just enough to slide the furnace out.





They drilled and installed rods to connect the old floor with the new:





The stairs started falling as the nails temporarily holding it up start to pull out. I found a couple of hooks and screwed them in the floor joist then screwed a 2X4 to the stairs and got out the ratchet straps again and pulled it back up:





Everything ready for concrete!





The concrete pump:





And getting it down below:





Here are a couple of videos of the pouring:

https://youtu.be/x9wZFFfDAFI

https://youtu.be/_zVtaifCHCQ
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This would have been the time to rough-in that basement bathroom and wet bar you've always wanted... ; )
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Tootal
Posted on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was already there and it's still there! I just have to rebuild it. I'm going to wait till after the Spring rains to make sure it stays dry down there!

I had a restroom, a 14 foot long bar, pool table and 833 watts per channel! We had fun for many years!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gotcha. Just checking : )

Have a full bath in the basement now; working on turning one of the rooms down there into a rehearsal hall/recording studio.

It's on "the list"...
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Tootal
Posted on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's on "the list"...

Boy, do I understand the meaning of that!
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's on "the list"...

Boy, do I understand the meaning of that!

Yeah; me too!
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S1owner
Posted on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like that you put the drain tile on the exterior. That is the best way to do it. Most builders up here put it on the inside. It wirks but that means the water is on the inside of the structure? Best to keep it on the outside!
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Tootal
Posted on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is actually a drain tile on both sides! If it makes it past the outside it won't go any further. As the water starts to climb up the footing it will hit the interior tile and get detoured back to the outside. It's a gravity feed system so no need for a sump pump.
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Rkc00
Posted on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use those helical piles all the time in my structural designs. They are great for this work.
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Tootal
Posted on Friday, December 22, 2017 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well the concrete is drying and I'm not worried about the pipes freezing! It's really producing the heat right now. I've known that the chemical reaction produces heat but never experienced this much concrete indoors before! So far my 1500 watt electric "toaster" heater and a friends electric radiator are keeping the house at 72 degrees! I'm glad I didn't have to leave the house.
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Buellish
Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2017 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hope you have a crack and lean free Christmas Greg!
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