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     Crusty |
1917 - 100 year old footage of the Red Baron during WWI Notice them squirting oil … on the valve stems I would guess, prior to spinning the prop. The following is a very rare piece of film, 100 years old. It shows Baron Von Richthofen, doing an external prior to a mission, as well as his putting on a flying suit prior to flight in cold weather. If you look close you will notice Hermann Goering.The Baron was shot down on 21 April 1918 by Roy Brown of the Royal Navy Air Services, a prelude of the R.A.F.. The Aussies also claim that one of their machine gunners on the ground shot the Baron down UK & Aussie Doctors, after the autopsy stated that the fatal bullet was shot from above.The author of this has been very involved as a Director of the Roy Brown Museum in Carleton Place, the home town of Roy. Many letters have been written over the past 3-4 years and finally Roy Brown was inducted into Canada’s Aviation Hall of Fame on 4 June 2015…To think this film is almost 100 years old! If you're interested in history or aviation, you cannot miss this footage. It was just posted online, and I've never seen anything like it. It's from 1917, and it's an up-close and personal look at the most legendary combat pilot who ever lived, the infamous Red Baron, Manfred Von Richthofen. Watch the extremely rare, extremely old footage and re-live history. ULTRA-RARE footage of the most famous fighter pilot ever https://shar.es/12Ag7e | ||
| Pwnzor |
Super cool... I moved an old plane back in 2010... here's the thread | ||
| Dwardo |
Thanks for that, Crusty. That is super-cool. I have been into aviation history since I was a small boy. I am certain that Richthofen really was the best known fighter pilot in the world but he wasn't anywhere near the highest scoring. That would be Erich Hartmann, with 352 kills. Pwnzor, that is a special plane. It is a "real" Zero fighter. A lot of them are replicas based on a T-6, which is a cool plane in itself, but the Zeros are super rare. | ||
| Greg_e |
Could they have been squirting fuel in through the exhaust to prime the cylinders for starting? | ||
| Tootal |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gChU-mGeBaM Great old footage! Would have loved to hear that engine! Great job on moving the plane through city streets, probably the hardest part! When I hear about Zero's this film always comes to mind! | ||
| Dwardo |
I somehow missed that movie. Those are "T-6" Zeroes. Wing shape is a dead giveaway. I'd love to have a T-6. | ||
| Ourdee |
I can smell the castor oil. | ||
| Sifo |
In high school I had a friend who dad was partnered in a T-6. Very cool aircraft. Got to go in it once. About 6 months later it went down and killed the partner of my friends dad. There was also a T-6 group (club?) in our area for a long time, and from time to time you would see them up in formation. Always cool to see! | ||
| Ebutch |
Glen Curtis in the begining of aircraft. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33rS9Vf_5DQ | ||
| Etennuly |
Hey Crusty! Remember when these 100 year old films were only forty years old?!? | ||
| Crusty |
Yes, I do! I also remember when Jap Zeros were only 20 years old. I saw a Fokker Triplane flying over Priest River, Idaho back in 1978 during their Logger Days Celebration. | ||
| Zac4mac |
I saw a B-58 over Corpus Christi in 66 or 67, thought it was a Dart until iI realized how far off it was. There's a CSA group just south of here and I see some pretty cool old birds. Heard a real deep whup-whup a few weeks ago and it was a two blade Huey. got a soft spot for them. Z | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Owls head vehicle museum has a triplane that they fly around. I'm pretty sure it a repro though. They also have a Gnome rotary cut away that lets you spin it over and watch the insanity inside through a plexi cover. http://owlshead.org/ It has a wings and wheels even in September where they invite old motorcycles to show up and be a part of the show. They fly the red baron triplane too. | ||
| Zane |
Back in 2013 I saw a B-52 doing touch and goes at Marine Corp Air Station Yuma. Impressive doesn't begin to describe it. | ||
| Nuts4mc |
if you can make it out to the "left coast" in San Diego, off Mira Mar road near MCAS Mira Mar: https://www.flyingleathernecks.org/ off the 215 freeway in Riverside (March Field) (the old man has "brick" in the memorial garden) they have "Open Cockpit" days...an F4 Weasel cockpit from the Vietnam era is something to be amazed at. https://www.marchfield.org/ and in San Diego on the bay: http://www.midway.org/ some pix from March Field museum       | ||
| Dwardo |
I see a "corncob" radial engine. | ||
| Ourdee |
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| Etennuly |
Years back living in Fl my neighbor, who over twelve years became a second dad and good friend to me and my family, was retired Air force. His stories about his twenty six years were quite amazing with conformation at every turn. He retired Chief Master Sergeant, and for a two year period was the highest ranking noncom in the air force. For several years he was a navigator on B52. He flew the Tet Offensive and many other Vietnam missions. He loved those B52s. His stories of his last few years were amazing. He was the Chief on the Inspector General nuclear inspection program. He loved that job also. Many times he would cut a story short. Some stuff was still classified. Several of us neighbors got a visit from some air force security folks. They had to check on who visited him and what was spoken about at first annually, then at three years,twice. He really got me one Sunday as I was watching a NASCAR race with him. A black Suburban pulled up his driveway, two AF personnel in full dress come to the door. Very formal like. He answers the door to a two star General who immediately snapped the sharpest salute I had ever seen.....to my neighbor! Wholly shit! He returned the salute to where I made my exit out his back door. He explained that the Gen started out his career as his favorite private in training. His apprentice and head grunt on the IG team. This guy was going to teach me the fine art of slide rule but my business took off at that moment ,but time was often short. If you can not have done these flying games the next best thing is having a veteran who did tell their stories. | ||
| 86129squids |
Dang, Vern, I thought you were cool for racing those heinous ATC's... I make a point of saying hello, and shaking the hand of any old guy (not too many gals) wearing a notable cap that indicates their service. Due to medical issues, I never had a chance personally to serve, but my Dad was Air Force, Korea. | ||
| Zac4mac |
My first year of college, 1973 Texas A&M, first day of Chem 101 the prof says " there is a new tool available called a 'pocket calculator'. Because they are expensive and not all students can afford one, we will not allow them in this class. All calculations will be on a slide rule." I still have an SR-11. RD - WTF is that plane? thought maybe a U-2 but it's not. Z | ||
| Dwardo |
I make it to be a Martin Canberra. British plane, built under license by Martin. Was a bomber and recon craft. | ||
| Ourdee |
To an extent it was the U-2's predecessor. The secrets from it's use have been maintained well. The Martin Canberras were used to build into this one. My favorite recon plane. The pilots would be left in the plane after a mission until the CIA had removed the film and left. Pilots were not even allowed to see the pictures they had taken. "Two aircraft were additionally modified to carry the Bulova 707-1000 long range camera, which had a 240-inch (608mm) focal length that resulted in its reference designation of Big Item. These high-altitude side-looking cameras, secured by a roll-stabilized mount, could take oblique shots at 5 to 15 degrees below the horizon up to 60 nautical miles (110 km) range from the aircraft and provide 30-inch (76cm) high resolution images.",Wiki. For more info: Wiki has some. Want a story to look into? :  | ||
| Chauly |
Zac, I had the exact same experience: First semester slide rule, second semester calculators. I suppose (like me) that many got TI's SR-11 for Christmas. The rich kids got HP-35's. I had a Rockwell (just to be different). In 1984, I got an HP-15C. The manual was twice as voluminous as the calculator, and it did (still does) things that I don't understand. | ||
| Ducxl |
Was that originally posted engine a radial or a rotary design?  | ||
| 86129squids |
I'm not the one to ask, but IIRC that's a radial. Rotary will probably relate to a Wankel. | ||
| Slaughter |
The big radial is an R-4360 of some variant. Impossibly complex. R designates Radial configuration, 4360 is cubic inches. 4 rows of 7 cylinders = 28 cylinders, 56 sparkplugs and a whole lotta wiggling and tapping and movement of lotsa small bits and pieces. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R- 4360_Wasp_Major | ||
| Aesquire |
Simple rule of thumb. If the cylinders rotate with the propeller, It's a rotary. Predates Wankel by years. There's a whole class of rotating block engines of various types. WW1 rotary engines used a Total loss oiling system using castor oil. Yes, breathing and being sprayed with castor oil has an effect on your system just like drinking it. Brandy was the common remedy. It wasn't unusual for WW1 pilots to climb out of their planes and run to the outhouse before debriefing. If the cylinders don't move, it's a radial. | ||
| Ducxl |
^^^^Thanks.I thought there was some confusion WRT the Wankel.The Rotary must've been more primitive | ||
| Sifo |
I do hear Wankels called rotary all the time. I'm sure most people have no idea what the WWI era rotary engines are. There's bound to be confusion. I've always wondered about how the oil system worked on the old rotary engines. Total loss oiling sounds like a freaking mess! What about the fueling system? A carb on each cylinder would solve the problems of going inverted with a carb with a fuel bowl and float. That's a problem on far more recent aircraft. They would have to deal with some sort of rotating seal on the fuel line though. That seems problematic, especially considering that with gas running through it, you wouldn't be able to keep any sort of lubricant on it. Anyone able to shed some light on that? | ||
| Slaughter |
Good video of an Oberursel rotary. Amazing this being a scratch-built engine. A re-creation of the type that powered numerous WWI German aircraft - most notably the Fokker DR1 Triplane |
