| Author | Message | ||
     Mtnmason |
Rick - glad to see someone else using Anderson lowers for several builds. Some of my gun guy buddies like to trash talk my AM lowers. In return, I chide them for being label whores that have to have Noveske or Aero on the side of their lower to feel validated. I have read that AM does use somewhat inferior stock materials for their products. I would likely never buy an AM barrel or BCG. The day my lower cracks (hint: it won't) I'll be sure to scrap it and replace before they find out! | ||
| Rick_a |
Yeah...I have Anderson, Colt, Del-Ton, and Spikes. The Colt looks the worst and the Del-Ton best. They all work. It would've been nice to do the SBR with an Aero instead, but it was impossible to get a hold of one at the time, and the Anderson has a unique serial number that turned out to be rather prophetic. The least expensive of any item is bound to catch some flack. Everyone thinks the 7" pistol is cool until I tell them that the upper started as a DPMS Kitty Kat. The ridicule pours forth from that point. An acquaintance took a stab at me with a "no cheap stuff" comment over his bragging on the specs for a gun he was planning for a girl. My wife's rifle is based on a $200 PSA upper with some donated and take-off parts thrown in. If it works and performs the ultimate weak point tends to be the shooter, not the gun. A high dollar gun with a low caliber shooter is a combination seen all too often. | ||
| Rick_a |
But...now that you mention it, I've always kinda wanted a Punisher lower for the 22lr pistol. Too much?  | ||
| Ducbsa |
Rick, that bolt action rifle still looks scary! It might have a grenade launcher and bayonet lug. (Message edited by ducbsa on November 06, 2017) | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/11/wh en_jeanne_assams_gun_stepped_a_church_massacre.htm l | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/11/a_libe ral_gun_paradox.html | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/11/from_m y_cold_dead_hands_gun_control_calls_in_the_wake_of _the_texas_church_massacre.html | ||
| Chauly |
I just heard a report that the shooter fired approximately 450 rounds inside the church. That would be 15 30-round magazines that had to be carried and swapped. Is it just me, or does that seem a bit implausible? 15 lb. of ammunition is a bit of a chunk to hump. | ||
| Aesquire |
Stay cynical. 450 rounds? He shot 46 people penned up in one room and missed 9 out of ten times? That's NYPD level inaccuracy. ( bad joke about the police history of shooting 40 times at one guy ) There's a lot of bull out there on this case. You are right to be suspicious. I tell folk to pay attention to who bulls^/4s them and remember the ones you can't trust. Post a link if you can. | ||
| Chauly |
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/07/us/texas-church-shoo ting/index.html This mentions the 15 magazines | ||
| Rick_a |
He started shooting rounds into the church from outside before moving in, from what I've gleaned. | ||
| Rick_a |
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| Bandm |
Here's 440 rounds fired quickly. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/453485/nyt-sh ows-how-not-analyze-mass-shooting-data Sorry. Can't access YouTube now. Point? | ||
| Aesquire |
I don't dispute that you can fire lots of shots quickly. My standard drill was to empty the last magazine on the range ( after very slow accuracy practice from the bench ) quickly. Aimed fire. Offhand sitting or standing.( I alternate ) it's not good if you miss. I save that target for contemplation too. Learn from mistakes and improve. I'm not the best shot nor claim to be. Not even in my crowd. My brother in law, former Marine, was selling me a Winchester .30-30 and emptied a magazine into the gongs at 100 yards like Chuck Connors. Every shot rang the steel. ( he also hits clays in flight with a bolt action .22 ..... not every time. Just mostly. ) | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453445/gun-c ontrol-never-happens-why | ||
| Bandm |
My point it would take a long time semi auto and it caught on fire. | ||
| Ourdee |
Charlie, 15 mags come in at under 14 pounds including my bag. Standard load for my AR when I carry it.  It all sounds very plausible to me. There were days in the military I humped a thousand rounds of .308 with a 26 pound gun and gear. That was less than 2 minutes of ammo. 20 pounds of ammo and gun is a cake walk. | ||
| Aesquire |
Hearing the survivors now, and they say he was shooting people multiple times after they were wounded. 5-6+ times. So while hard to believe, it's feasible. 15 mags in 11 minutes. ( That time is from one account I read ) Call it 44 seconds a magazine. I'm well out of practice, but I could fire 30 rounds Aimed fire and reload in that time. A little practice reloading would help. It's still a bit brisk. I wonder what the time frame really was, but absent video or audio? Keep in mind I'm simply talking physical possibility. The murderer appears to have done relatively unaimed fire for much of the event. I'd be interested in the forensics. | ||
| Rick_a |
The church had video surveillance. I doubt that will ever see the light of day. This is the typical instance where in a day or two, the shooters life story is known. Vegas shooter...mystery. Funny, that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9DLGTYd5wE&sns=fb My Canadian family and their friends are droning on about "gun control" and "doing something" then try sway my opinion with manufactured facts, bogus statistics, and the usual emotional based justifications. I've been in this thing for too long to give that nonsense any credence. Even if the statistics went against our favor (they don't), it's still no justification to attempt to dismantle the foundations of our freedom and independence. | ||
| Ducbsa |
USA Today lets the cat out of the bag on the latest AR accessory: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/11/sabo tage-at-usa-today.php  | ||
| Rick_a |
That video has gone viral...and it's hilarious. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanewshub.com/2017/11/09/texas-ch urch-survivor-played-dead-shooter-still-process-sh ooting-parishioners-shot-good-guy-gun/ Media lies about Second Worst Religious massacre in Texas. Bless the NRA. | ||
| Aesquire |
Chainsaw bayonets were very popular a few years back. Just search for cosplay chainsaw bayonet. It's from a video game. Several people built working models just for fun. It was such a fad that my buddies speculated on the usefulness of these thing. One. It's stupid heavy. B. They clog and stall. Three. Reliably starting one without shooting your own foot is.... iffy. D. They run out of gas and then become a scratchy, ill balanced club. Five. They don't work until you start them The REASON for a bayonet is to turn a long gun into a crappy short pike. Pikes are for close range defense when the bad guy jumps into your trench or hallway and you can't shoot. ( and The AR platform is a fragile platform for a bayonet with the handles in the wrong places. Actually using one as intended breaks the gun leaving you with horrible jagged junk. ) only in a video game can it be useful. It's so much better to carry as an intimidation tool by itself, and is at least useful then. Admittedly this analysis is from people who are deadly with edged weapons and know how to use a pike, a shotgun/rifle with bayonet, and all agree a sword is the ultimate weapon at spitting distance. Opinions vary on length and style, but even those who regularly use pole arms in practice combat admit that with equal skill a sword wins. Not to knock any Samurai fans that love a Naganita. The Samurai Lady's home defense weapon is deadly in skilled hands. A bit unwieldy in a narrow hallway. But even there it's a useful, lethal weapon. And like a sword, never runs out of ammo. You just get tired. A buddy in Law Enforcement often practices pistol weak hand. He's expert with blade & handgun. Consider that "Pirate style". | ||
| Blake |
Cordless electric bro. Sheesh! Get with the times would ya? The 12 ga shotgun attachment is funny too. They totally missed the actual grenade launcher and bayonet. | ||
| Rick_a |
A gun for your gun so you can gun it.  | ||
| Ourdee |
Who makes that fancy drum? | ||
| Ducbsa |
The author is pretty casual about ignoring the Constitution. How would the grabbers like equal casualness about the 1st or the 19th? http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2017/11/10/hand-o ver-your-weapons/6IxJLanMKGak7RvCLipwbN/story.html | ||
| Sifo |
Who exactly are the terrorists? The Feds, under Obama, seizing a truck in TX for having 5 rounds of ammo in the center console? They Seized His Truck Because He Had 5 Bullets | ||
| Rick_a |
That drum is by X Products. The gun angle is a distraction to the real agenda...eliminating self defense as a legal construct. That is the end game, after all. |
