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     Aesquire |
If we sent all the aid we send to N. Korea to Detroit? Would they develop nukes to demand more? | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/09/04/vio lent-mob-forces-police-shut-down-patriot-picnic-at -chicano-park/ Originally headlined as "white supremacist" group. I ask again, if I'm encouraged to punch a Nazi, then what am I to do with folk that falsely accuse me of being a Nazi? Accused of being a fire in a crowded theater? Targeted by mob, whatever do you do? Can't ask police to arrest them, violates free speech. This trend is a deliberate attempt to get the cannon fodder antifa killed to use the violence to justify ending Constitution rights. Mostly 1st and 2nd. But since the leadership is protected by armed guards behind walls........ ( while filled with hatred for armed citizens and borders ) they feel secure sending students to die. Just like every other revolution run by evil men. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/09/wh en_did_fascism_and_communism_become_fashionable_ag ain.html A warning from England. Obama's mentors accepted that they'd have to murder about ten percent of Americans in reeducation camps when they took over in Glorious Revolution. Apparently England is going to lead in this Glory first. They've banned American conservatives from entry since truth is hate speech when you talk about no go zones for police in Islamic towns. Or the rape & sex slave operations the police won't touch. ( since it's Islamic Pakistanis raping children ) This "predicts" American trends. Hillary defending child rapists, ( she has defended rapists all her adult life apparently ) Pelosi demanding blasphemy trials. ( probably for George Bush, Nancy's not really oriented well in time anymore ) Liz Warren calling for all white supremacists to be murdered. ( meaning all whites that don't "identity" minority ) All of that sounds like paranoid fantasy. Just ask Geert Wilders. | ||
| Hootowl |
The crowd cheers for the murder of the innocent. http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/09/05/ma rtha-plimpton-says-had-her-best-abortion-in-seattl e.html | ||
| Sifo |
There is something seriously wrong when a crowd cheers for someone bragging about having serial abortions. Has the entire left turned into a bunch of sociopaths? | ||
| Sifo |
The law is providing little to no protection from the left wing protesters. Even after the fact, the courts are stacking the decks against those who wont conform to the mobs. CCW Holder Wrongly Convicted in 5 Minutes, for Defending His Life from BLM Thugs
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| Natexlh1000 |
Is she getting knocked up just write yelp reviews of abortion clinics? What the hell is this???? Who are these people? | ||
| Aesquire |
They are celebrating freedom from responsibility. Two technologies were developed in the last couple of centuries. Surgical abortion and chemical birth control. Abortion has been around since cave man days. Your local doctor ( witch doctor, wise woman, shaman, etc. ) could provide herbal medicine to induce a miscarriage. Risky, with a high fatality rate, but well worth it to avoid your husband from killing you when the baby obviously wasn't his. I'll skip the lecture on genes using people to reproduce and the different strategies used by the two sexes to optimize the process. Suffice to say that surgical abortion is far safer than the older methods, which, like chemotherapy, poison the patient hoping only to kill part of them. Modern "morning after pills" are safer than the old abortificants, they give a bigger margin between deathly ill and dead. I support freedom to have abortions in somewhat limited situations. Those limits are a matter of intense debate and emotional pain. Chemical birth control, "The Pill", implants, shots, are IMHO a much more morally defensible approach to not having children. Prevention of the egg & sperm from getting together or attaching to the uterine lining mean there is no pregnancy to abort. No harm, no foul. I have moral issues with using abortion as a low cost or lazy substitute for birth control. But I'm also male in a rich society and am biased, I'm not "in their shoes" & are limited in understanding the pressures involved. Doesn't make me happy, but my rights to interfere with another's is, and should be, quite limited. I'm more likely to mock and reject those who are morally against abortion, ( who I sympathize and partially agree with ) And want to refuse other's the use of contraception, than to mock abortion advocates. I will mock abortion advocates who are using their position to dehumanize all life. Particularly in the context of support for authoritarian rule. So.... "What a crowd of horrible sluts!" Seems like only a little more nasty than my attitude. But not much. | ||
| Aesquire |
I'm also morally sure that many of life's problems are because of ancient sex hang ups and self righteousness. The opposite extreme of freedom without responsibility is just as wrong. Honest communication is far preferred but, as the news shows, is rarer than an honest CNN report, and more discouraged than chainsaw massacres. It seems. Which says a lot about our society. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/09/06/anger-u k-police-cautions-rape-sex-crimes/ Honestly, I'm far more emotional over the issue above than a crowd of psycho-sluts who celebrate abortion as a sacrament. We have had that perversion of morality pushed down our throats for decades and it's here. Casual acceptance of child rape is a relatively new push by the Democrats and is well worthy of rage, protest, and if necessary, civil disobedience. But I do admit I'm biased on the subject. I think child rapists should be isolated from society. Volcano, prison, acid tank, I'm flexible. | ||
| Hootowl |
"Prevention of the egg & sperm from getting together or attaching to the uterine lining mean there is no pregnancy to abort. No harm, no foul. Specifically "or attaching to the uterine lining mean there is no pregnancy to abort. No harm, no foul." No "pregnancy" in the clinical sense, no, as that is defined as the attachment of a fertilized egg to the uterine wall. However, it isn't no harm no foul, as a fertilized egg, I.E. a genetically unique human being, dies in the process. The right to life should not be a matter of geography. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
The "morning after pill" isn't an abortion though. It's just a stronger dose of the same hormones found in normal old birth-control pills. If you're pregnant and take morning after pill, you're still pregnant. | ||
| Ebutch |
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| Hootowl |
"The "morning after pill" isn't an abortion though." Technically, no. It delays ovulation, and also prevents the fertilized egg from attaching to the uterine wall. See my previous post. There is a life lost, "abortion" or not. | ||
| Crusty |
Stay home and jerk off and there won't be any problems! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVHjg3AqIQ (Message edited by Crusty on September 06, 2017) | ||
| Aesquire |
Contraception prevents pregnancy. Pregnancy begins with the acceptance of the fertilized egg in an environment where it can be fed and grow, so, yeah, geography is part of the morality. That's a mighty fine split on the morality scale, and you can make the argument for your split. I do see your point of view. Your point is that each unique fertilized egg and it's winning unique sperm cell is the union of two people creating a new unique individual. Agreed. That that unique individual is human, and worthy of our protection. Partially agree, and base that on the fact that we normally cannot save fertilized eggs that don't implant for natural reasons including hormonal states, and foreign object safety protocols. ( nature & pills and IUDs ) Fertilized eggs often don't become pregnancies and then babies. I don't see any difference, philosophically, between hormone adjustment and barrier methods. Any method used to prevent pregnancy, from withdrawal to IUDs is subject to uncertainty. As are methods to determine the sex of the offspring with environmental factors. Lots of maybe and individual reaction at that instant. We seek to push the odds in our favor. | ||
| Hootowl |
Life begins at conception. Sometimes an egg doesn't attach, and that human dies. That's nature. People die of natural causes all the time. When you intentionally make that happen, it's not nature, it's homicide, which is the killing of one person by another. So...murder. Premeditated murder, in fact. | ||
| Aesquire |
We'll just disagree on that. I do understand your point. I think it's a bit obsolete as it fails to take into account technology developed since WW1. You may feel assured I'm closer to your view than official Obamacare policy that considers abortion ok for people through the 250th trimester and beyond. I'm only getting upset if they make abortion mandatory like China. Also I'm the target of that "very late term" push to legal homicide for the good of the collective. Zeke Emanuel, the "architect" of Obamacare and a Trump advisor pushes for old folk to be killed off to save money. ( hence Obama's callous comment that grandma shouldn't be "given surgery" but instead be provided pain killers until she dies. ) I do realize I'm claiming to be better than the ideology that has murdered more people than Cancer, & that's a pretty damning low bar.  | ||
| Hootowl |
Technically, and legally, when one person kills another it is a homicide, regardless of circumstance. Self defense, legal use of force, robbery/drug deal gone bad...it's all homicide. It does not ascribe motive. An abortion, or any procedure that, if performed properly, results in the end of a human life, is premeditated homicide. By any legal definition, premeditated homicide is murder. | ||
| Hootowl |
Unless that premeditated murder is performed on an unborn person. Then it's a 'choice', or 'women's health care', or 'asserting your reproductive rights'. They'll couch it in anything but what it actually is. | ||
| Rick_a |
On any logical, technical, scientific, moral, or rational argument abortion is terrible. Accept it as some great and noble thing because it's your body and well...women and stuff...and here we are. | ||
| Aesquire |
Or murder of an old person, then it's conserving the precious resources of the Community. ( Under Obamacare ) Amazing they only want to kill people that aren't a sure lock to vote for them. This discussion might be better in the science thread, but since this is the thread for Democrat terrorism.....  Soon we will be able to take the fertilized eggs that don't become babies, naturally or technologically, and raise them to term in artificial wombs. They really are working hard on those. Initially, it will be used in the spectacular cases of emergency. The shot & dying pregnant woman's unborn, the disease that causes spontaneous miscarriage. But soon after that it will become an option for the rich folk that don't want to interrupt their lifestyle for pregnancy. The rich man who doesn't want to hear the nagging or "suffer" with a fat trophy wife, and, to be sure, the trophy wife who doesn't want to get fat, and perhaps is reluctant to give up recreational drug use. Soon after that the moderately wealthy will use the tech, and before long it will be demanded as a right. You can imagine that there will be a PR campaign to make natural pregnancy immoral, on the grounds that the stainless wombs are a much safer place to grow a baby, away from the potential harm being risked in a flesh womb. ( Sponsored, in part, by Johnson & Johnson's "Carefree Womb" dept. ) Naturally there will be legal issues. Divorced couples, widows & widowers, deadbeat dads that suddenly think they want offspring. Court orders to preserve, or destroy, babies in the can. You aint got nothin' yet to complain about. Life will continue to get weirder, and the weird will continue to astound you. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/09 /07/government-christian-leader-theology-shall-ref lect-chinese-culture/ | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/09/07/ whitewashing-leftwing-hollywoods-systemic-racism-c omes-home-roost/ More and more the leftists show how racist they've always been. Hollywood is a perfect example. In the current D party strategy of accusing others of their favorite sins, charges of racism from the Klan Party, charges of Klandom from the Klan party, ( how hard do you have to work to be that much in denial? ) and anti-Semitism from the party that seems to have had only one leader in the last century that didn't approve of slaughtering Jews, and he was murdered young, have reached saturation point. Today you know if a D leader accuses anyone of anything you can bet the D leader is guilty and there are dead people involved. Like, you remember, the lynchings? | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/07 /nolte-civil-rights-lawsuit-claims-gifted-black-gi rl-bullied-by-black-students-for-acting-white/ Speaking of lynchings. Generations of Democrat leaders insistence that black people are inferior and incapable of self control have led to intelligence being branded evil and white. Racist scum from LBJ to Maxine Waters have pushed the dependency narrative while their allies like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have pushed racial inferiority with the excuses that blacks are incapable of success because of racism. ( Jackson was a Martin Luther King ally in the civil rights movement. His status today as a racist blackmail scammer shows how far he has fallen ) I don't have a cure for this racist self destructive attitude among Democrat owned vote slaves. ( That's how Dems see them ) | ||
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| Torquehd |
That may be the first black antifa member I've seen (if he was actually going for the antifa trademark). It seems, in all the media I've seen, they're virtually exclusively white. | ||
| 04xl1200c |
I have seen that video before. Think it was associated with another the Freddie Gray riot in Baltimore in 2015, not antifa. | ||
| Graeme1203 |
Aesquire- A warning from England. London is probably the most multicultural city in the world, from the 2011 national census (only reliable figures, census every 10 years) - 37% of London residents where born outside the UK. That's more than 1 in 3 and this figure would not include the massive migration from Eastern Europe that has occurred in recent years. The percentage is high enough to twist the politics significantly to the Leftist perspective. Most of our top politicians live within this multicultural London bubble and cannot even imagine a society that functions differently, the rest of the country is not like this. Labour MP lost her job because she dared to point out that we had a problem with gangs of Pakistani men preying on vulnerable young white girls in her area, the problem was that she broke with the political agenda and named their national identity, opening her up to calls of racist by her own party. Politics in the UK are very much out of step with the feelings of the nation as a whole, but as all parties court the left leaning media, come election time there's little to choose between them on these policies all that's left is economic policy. | ||
| Crusty |
"Where are we going? And what are we doing in this handbasket?" |
