Looks to be time to start a thread showing the tactics of the Democrats, Left, Progressives, Democratic Socialists, or what ever they will want to call themselves by next week. Wasn't it Michelle Obama, not very long ago, speaking of the need for bleeding and dying to accomplish their goals? Looks like that talk is being put into action. I do take notice that so far the seem to be happy to have their riots in gun free zones. I guess to this point, they want to do their best to make sure that their victims have limited ability to protect themselves. These tactics won't work on a larger scale.
Full face motorcycle helmet and walking stick plus good riding armor is going to be the new all the gear all the time.
Or if you want armor good for hammering through a group of rioters, come on up and we'll build some for you. My gear is 14th century transitional plate but "Mad Max" style stuff that actually works isn't that hard.
My armor rests on a stand in my living room. Great for visiting proselytizers. "Yes, that's real. Yes it's mine. Yes, it's heavy. Here, try on this articulated arm harness. Wait, I thought we were going to discuss religious persecution and the Church's attack on the Masonic orders during the...... ok.... bye....." I would never suggest any unlawful actions. Especially in regards to the threatened open street warfare by groups like "antifa".
Funny how the Progressive tradition of lying about their true nature by using a lie for a name applies to a black shirt & mask uniform wearing group that organizes to beat people with different beliefs to install a totalitarian state that controls the means of production calling themselves "anti-fascist".
'Hey, how come you guys are hanging back?' he asked an officer standing in an open door of the car and another sat in the back seat.
'That would be a question for the chief of police,' the cop sitting in the car replied.
'It sounds like you want a public statement, right?' the officer stood to the side then said. 'I would refer you to our public information officer.'
This is far more organized than some grass roots thugs looking to cause trouble, as we have been told this "minority" of thugs are. When the police are saying they were told to stand down while rioters beat others who showed up for a legal political speech, there are deep problems in our nation. I'm predicting much more blood in our streets. I haven't seen police in any of the videos of the riot I've seen.
I hate to say it, but it's time to arm up. Don't be afraid of not needing those arms when you go out. Be afraid of being caught in this crap without being armed.
"A shocking number of our comrades went in there with absolute no combat training."
Yeah, go get some combat training by serving your country. Then maybe you'll stop being a dip #($& and realize how blessed you are to live in a nation that protects #%$holes like you.
"We also need better equipment, I know the bandanna and hoodie look is our trade mark, but I saw the right wearing motorcycle helmets..."
Motorcycle helmets - the latest "trigger" for the left. Ban all motorcycle helmets!
No it's not. That's what the "community organizers" want - video and pictures of the government beating down and slaughtering citizens. That's exactly what they're trying to accomplish. They know they're not going to overthrow the government with a bunch of punk kids - unless they can use those punk kids as pawns to create sympathizers and sway the mass base/ public's opinion that the government is evil and needs overthrown.
The answer is careful and rigid application of LEO's. And responsible citizens who are willing to stand up to these #%$clowns. I'm all for that. Another factor that needs to be utilized is to turn the enemy's tactics against them. More media coverage and anti-anarchist/anti-leftist propaganda.
The answer is careful and rigid application of LEO's.
While I agree, keep in mind, in this case at least, the LEOs appear to have been given orders to pull back and let the fighting happen. I wonder if the Antifa folks knew this was going to be the case going in. It simply stretched the imagination beyond the breaking point that any credible police force would be caught off guard by this sort of thing, and not lift a finger to gain some sort of control.
Don't kid yourself for a second. We are watching a low level civil war breaking out in our country. Battle lines are being drawn. Many local governments are not on the side of the Constitution. We are living in interesting times.
I think the LEO issue will come down to either locale...or FOP intervention.
Our President was, after all, the first candidate EVER to receive the official endorsement of the national FOP...time for management to wake up...and step up.
Funny how CBS white washes this dumb-ass chick who came to collect her "100 scalps". I guess they didn't check her background at all.
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City of Berkeley spokesman Chakko Matthai said authorities would be looking to prosecute assailants who attacked others during the protest.
“There is a lot of video out there,” said Matthai. “We will be working with the community to identify those people who were committing those acts.”
So there's video of this 100 scalps chick hitting people with a wine bottle. She made it clear on facebook that she was going there for a fight. The entire world knows who she is. Anyone want to make a bet as to if she gets prosecuted? Between the facebook confession and available video, the case would be a slam dunk. It's funny that this chick actually complained that she didn't have police coming to her rescue. Why did they pull back in the first place? Mmmm....
EDIT to add SeeBS news link... http://www.cbsnews.com/news/berkeley-protest-louise-rosealma-describes-melee-after-being-punched/
Your sympathy for anyone wearing a mask while beating people should be reserved for the little guy in the Mexican wrestler tights. I don't mind the Guy Fawkes masks on corner standing sign wavers, that's an appeal to historical revolt. ( although I bet most people who see them think the mask is from a Natalie Portman movie.... or have zero clue )
But wear masks while beating people for the Greater Glory of the Holy State? And Hillary Clinton? These are folk who should be prosecuted and outed. But first they have to be prevented from hurting people.
It's an over reaction to say the anonymous bully should be buried in mass graves without identifying them, leaving family to forever wonder about their fate. No, seriously, although "condemned to obscurity" would work..... it's not polite.
Since I'm far more likely to be sent than Com-Prog-anarchists, I'm not for the idea. ( I've read Heinlein. )
I'm all for peaceful protests.
I'm also all for protecting the weak.
Lucky for me, I don't have to worry about right wing nuts beating people wearing "Trumps is not my president" shirts.
And the alt-idiot racist violent folk I'd be happy to rudely stop beating someone are so rare I'll never see one in person. ( and, I Assure you, I'd be more than happy to rudely stop a Klan assault. Very rudely. )
So all you really have to be concerned with are the Leftists.... who have a century old tradition of this crap all over the world.
They are also first up against the wall to be shot when The Revolution succeeds, by the evil men that sponsor and exploit them. So they HAVE to be fools to be useful.
Ask Stalin. You don't want trained street agitators around once you've won. They might demand you keep your promises. Much safer to murder them.
So their Masters are not idiots, and have been doing great at ruining western civilization and stealing power. See Billionaire Barry the Weasel. And his Master Soros. ( that's not how Barry sees it... but it's for sure how George S. does )
I don't use the phrase "up against the wall, and shot" because it's poetic. It's how it's done.
In high school as part of an independent study thing, I wrote to the CPUSA, and asked for info, brochures, pamphlets, etc. THEY were the ones that turned me on to Alinsky. I admit I misrepresented my eagerness for The Revolution, so I could get the good stuff, but I was pretty anti-establishment, ( still am ) and since Dad was a Goldwater Republican, I, Was Not.
What the Communist Party, USA, taught me, was that the dialectic is the fantasy that sells the message. The clever setup, the loaded argument, that sells. Alinsky taught me that the whole was a lie. That every single level of Marxist-Lenninism, was deliberate.
You can't sell people on being a slave if you tell the truth about how much you are going to steal from them and what few perks you will allow them.
You have to tell them they are throwing off the shackles that the rich and hated have bound them with. ( and by golly, you will tell them who to hate... Trumphitler, this week ) The credit cards, mortgages, car loans..... the weight the Capitalist Sucker bears every day.
( Never mind that your car runs and is better than anything a Commissar in Moscow can have. ( Only HIGH Party members had Mercedes ) Never mind your hovel is better than all but the Most Elite Party Members in Russia. Never mind......truth. )
The occupy kids huddled in their tents while the leaders were in the 5 star hotel down the street... ( just past the "we hold here" police line, and in no danger of being bothered by their loyal idiots )
The Antifa scum who revel in throwing rocks at women.... Paid to ride the paid bus to the paid riot.
You don't let violent fools like that live, after you win. They die in prison in droves, all over the world. Ask a Cuban.
If these people ever actually saw what their fate is, there would be blood in the 5 star hotel rooms and mansions.
If their anti-gun-rights Master's well armed private security force lets them live.
Every aspect of leftism is false, on purpose, hypocritical, by design, seductive, by intent.
I'm a prime example of how a disillusioned leftist is the greatest hater of the illusion masters.
I don't understand the mindset of many liberals. I have some friends that are very smart who are diehard liberals. They rail on and on about the evils of large corporations but will blindly give their money and their freedoms and rights over to big government. Like that entity is less likely to do you harm than a corporation will.
The logic completely fails me and I just don't get it.
Oh there are folk on the opposite side of the political equation that are just as blind.
It was a lot harder to see these people before the "Alt-Right" was created to be a Goblin To Be Hated by the Left, but they, the few, the loud, the almost extinct Right-Wing Nut, flocking to the shiny promise of publicity and volunteered to be the face of The Opposition. As near as I can tell most of their followers are 'bots. Probably paid for by George Soros or Liz Warren. ( our Future First Native American President )
It's not like there aren't a lot of middle right folk that don't partially agree with the tiny minority "Alt-Right", even a stopped clock is right twice a day, ( If analog ) and OF COURSE I'm going to agree with anyone who tells the horrible truth about Hillary.
And "Kill the all, God will Know His Own" is a classic, and occasionally workable, solution to the problems of a world where 2 1/2 religions have killed more people than Cancer. It sorta fails as a thoughtful policy most of the time, though.
I don't want to live in the cyberpunk Corporations Rule world ( Think "Rollerball" ... the original ) any more than I want to live in Soviet New York. And we are closer than it seems, some days, to both.
Uber tracks people who have unloaded their Uber app from their iPhones. I'm not sure there is ANY rational justification for tolerating that.
The Governor of New York has State Police precede him wherever he goes ( in his armored convoy of Paramilitary Firepower ) to trespass, and steal yards signs from people in his path so he doesn't have to see other's opinions. Might make him mad. ( He already won't allow road funds to go to counties that didn't vote for him. Satan alone knows what he'd do to a community with a "repeal The Safe Act" sign visible. Carpet Bombing? )
If you are looking for logic in Leftist Thought, just stop. You'll just get frustrated. It's all about Emotion, and Hate is the fastest, easiest way, to make people into a Mob with the IQ of a paramecium.
Almost as good is Unearned Praise. That's the source of all the Virtue Signalling you see today. ( and, again, that's not limited to one group )
( BTW.... Moderators. "Flock" got censored. What the Frack? )
RE: Aesquire's link posted at 12:29 pm... I find it interesting that the Antifa was originated by the communists. That actually makes sense to me. I wonder what percentage of the useful idiots actually know that. I know a lot who do know it would deny it if asked though. I'm sure a good number of them embrace their communist roots.
I don't understand the mindset of many liberals. I have some friends that are very smart who are diehard liberals. They rail on and on about the evils of large corporations but will blindly give their money and their freedoms and rights over to big government. Like that entity is less likely to do you harm than a corporation will.
The logic completely fails me and I just don't get it.
A corporation that does you harm can be boycotted and run out of business. A government is the ultimate monopoly, ultimately enforced at the business end of a gun. Only a true believer can put their trust in government to watch over them. It really is a religion.
What's funny is that those same people who hate big corporations are feeding them money and information by using their platforms to organize their protests and communicate their intents.
Fools.
Good for the folks that want to track them and eventually use their words against them.