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S1owner
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2017 - 09:34 am: | 
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Also add in the cost of warehousing material as you incure taxes on the parts that sit. Hence the reason warehousing trys to turn the material quickly less you stock and shorter time to restock = less money paid out to hold the material.
At the time they moved in the 90's they still had parts from the 70's. It really upset the vintage guys!!!!
I asked why not bulk sell to a whole sale. Simple awnser was cost, hassel, and liability being the big one as they are the production manufacturer. They had no one else to blame if something went wrong. |
S1owner
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2017 - 09:41 am: |
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Also
Not saying someone did not get something out but to the people I know it was locked down hard. One way in and out other then emergency exit scenerio. Docks had shredders and compactors so no way to get parts out.
I assume they will do the same for victory. I will see him tomorrow as I am going to the International Motorcycle show with him. Word has it victory still has the big display but just to sell what they have. |
Tootal
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2017 - 10:15 am: |
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Inventory taxes have done more to screw dealers than the internet ever did! |
S1owner
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2017 - 10:28 am: |
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Warehouse I ran for 6 yrs and also where I work now if something has not moved in 3 yrs it is scrapoed out. I have seen 100,000 dollar parts thrown away the reordered!! All due to taxes |
Bluzm2
| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2017 - 11:10 am: |
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Ken, I had a very interesting conversation with a Indian rep at the show yesterday. The FTR750 racer appears to be just the opening salvo. Parsing between the lines of what he said, there will be at least one street legal version in the not too distant future. I asked about time frame, he just smiled. The folks at the HD booth were pretty much clueless about their new flat track racer. |
Hughlysses
| | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2017 - 02:08 pm: |
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^ That could be very interesting. |
Crusty
| | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2017 - 04:14 pm: |
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I'm looking forward to the upcoming Flat Track season. It will be interesting to see how the Indian and XG750R measure against each other and the other bikes in the field ; Kaw 740s, Yamaha 750s, Triumphs, Ducatis, KTMs, etc . All the riders on both H-D and Indian teams seem pretty confident in their bikes.
However, the season opener is a little over a month away, and, as we all know, when the green flag drops, the bullshit stops. |
Hughlysses
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 09:21 am: |
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Interesting interview with the president of motorcycles at Polaris. If what he says is true, there are some interesting motorcycles in the works at Indian.
http://www.cyclenews.com/2017/03/article/president -motorcycles-polaris-industries-inc-steve-menneto- interview/
I believe several key people from Buell went to work at Polaris; maybe we'll see some of their work in these new Indians. |
Ffbuell1
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 11:30 am: |
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I do believe that Indian is going to really take a big chunk of Harley 's market share, not just by taking sales from the touring line but after reading the interview with the president of Indian motorcycles he talks of them going into different market segment's ,he mentioned more performance and racing these are area's that Harley avoids like the plague. one has to just see how easily Indian won the first race of the season in the Daytona TT to see how serious they are and being a relatively new company they unlike Harley have not cemented themselves to the past like Harley has. |
S1owner
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 11:41 am: |
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I am one HD is loosing
My softail is going byby and be relaced by an Indian. I am going full touring for long trips with the wife and with Indian you get More bike for the money, way better fit and finish, a better rider area, way more options and stuff that is included not extra!
I went to both at the show Indian kicked their a** |
Midknyte
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 11:50 am: |
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"...they unlike Harley have not cemented themselves to the past like Harley has..."
Indian has been down more than they have been alive - there's not much [middle] past to cement themselves to. Deep heritage and design cues, yes, and boy have they nailed that this time!
They have the freedom to wiggle around into new markets simply because they are not entrenched. |
Hughlysses
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 12:05 pm: |
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Notice he mentions that the ADV segment would definitely be a possibility for a new Indian model.
Maybe someone who worked on the original Ulysses design is diligently working on a new model for those of us who longed for the (apparently) never-to-be-built EBR AX. |
Elsinore74
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 05:49 pm: |
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Cannonball Baker rode an Indian... |
Crusty
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 05:56 pm: |
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Yeah; and Joe Petrali rode a Knucklehead.
And Iron Man Ed Kretz rode an indian while Iron Man Fred Ham rode a Harley.
Your point is?
(Message edited by Crusty on March 23, 2017) |
Daddio
| | Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2017 - 07:01 pm: |
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I wonder how much of the $100M loss for the "Victory" line was the acquisition cost of Brammo E-bikes? Also, since until about a year ago, Vic, Indian and Slingshot were all built by the same corporate division (On Road,) did a lot of the development costs of Indian and Slingshot get shuffled into the $100M 'loss' by Vic. I've owned a Cross-Country Tour for 71K miles, so I am only mildly bitter at Vic's demise. |
Elsinore74
| | Posted on Monday, April 03, 2017 - 04:11 pm: |
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Your point is?
Advertising.
Cannonball Baker re-imagined on a modern Indian ADV bike. Built-in history/pedigree, whatever you want to call it.
Similar to the way Indian's dirt track effort associates itself with the "Wrecking Crew" of years past.
If this thread is hoovered-up in the name of market research, though, add my vote for a production version of Aaron Colton's (Garage 93) Octane, as mentioned earlier. |
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