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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OHIO . . . just called for Trump has predicted the President for the last 13 elections.


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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those of you watching at home...this is the "live feed" from NYT:

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/presiden t

91 percent chance!!!!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now Trump is arguably on track to win PA. Unbelievable.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


How pissed were the Americans?


SOURCE: NEW YORK TIMES . . . no shit . . . the NEW YORK TIMES !

(Message edited by court on November 08, 2016)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...is anybody calling it yet? The NYT says ">95% chance" of Trump winning...
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look at the Senate and House races . . . .


 All Races
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know what I am shocked by more... that Trump is winning by a solid margin, or that the NYT is actually doing solid journalism...

Except their charts show their bias. Their statistical models were supposed to mirror the outcomes, so those plots should not have changed over time. The fact that they had huge swings means their models had huge flaws, or saying it another way the American people changed in radical ways.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suspect we are seeing radical change here.

Think on it.

This is the first time *I* can remember that corruption and "aren't you tired of being screwed" was a main focus of the election.

Sure...there were the 60s and the "don't trust the man"...but this is different. This...could actually be the start of some real change.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In my small mind . . . .this started when you told me I couldn't fly the American flag because it made the illegal immigrants feel bad.
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Buellerxt
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is so historic! I am proud of American voters tonight. My fingers are crossed for the win and crossed that Trump will be a good president. I hope I feel this good one year and four years from tonight.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I quit flying the flag because I was NOT proud of what this country had become.

Might have to buy myself a new flag tomorrow. And a spotlight for it, so it can be seen 24/7.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

306 electoral votes.

More than 95% chance of a win.

Clinton only shows a waffling 1.0% advantage in popular vote.

Just....wow.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Might have to buy myself a new flag tomorrow.

No need . . . shoot me your address.
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The plus side is, on the odd chance Trump loses, Hillary will be relatively impotent, just like Obummer, and will be stuck playing political games to sway policy and furiously writing executive orders.

Liberal heads may explode, and it will be glorious.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, is it time for MN to flop the same way? Did they get the non urban ratio way wrong there also?

See the pattern repeating? They are a little over 40% done counting...


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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I'm afraid to turn on the news...I'm watching Barnwood Builders on TV and have the NYT page on the laptop. How's the MSM handling this?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still in denial. Which, again, makes me amazed that the NYT isn't.

Somebody must have come out of retirement and kicked some asses.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

annnnnndddd MN is getting ready to cross...
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Snacktoast
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CNN is telling you Clinton is currently leading.
FOX is telling you Trump is currently leading.

Nothing new to report.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hillary likely just lost MN. Lets see which state is next on deck. We are running out of ones with enough uncounted votes and a small enough margin for the error to change the result.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fox just called MN for Trump.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Folks are crying and leaving Javitt's Center . . . . here in NYC where the Clinton "Celebration" is . . .
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AP called Georgia for trump. 16 electoral.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

232 to 209 electoral.

Fox5 in DC is showing Old Ebbett Grille...looks like a wake.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MN is still up for grabs with the NYT data, lots of time for it to go either way, though the NYT bias towards Clinton suggests that when they call it a tie it's a Trump win.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IA is trump. 254 to 209.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NBC is calling it 244-209.

NBC.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The live video feed on Facebook from the Clinton celebration in NY by Fox News is priceless...
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

232-209.

According to CNN.

"What did the polls get wrong?"

David Axlerod: "...just the numbers..."
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