I think it's pretty telling that as soon as this news broke, Huma Abedin was suddenly missing from Hillary's side. That's very unusual, and unthinkable at such a critical time in the election. If Hillary thought that this was simply more of the same, she would be sticking with her IMO. She's the one person who knows ALL the dirt, and has Hillary's complete trust and confidence. She must know that she's just been caught with her hand in the cookie jar, and Huma is right in the middle of it. Only choice, toss her under the bus and hope for the best. I find it astounding that Huma has been thrown under the bus like this, and we don't even know what for yet. I bet Hillary knows though.
Are they (wikileaks) to be held with high regard or only when it suits your needs.?
Oh, no, to be viewed with the greatest suspicion of being false. No matter what they say. Bad things about Jeb, Hillary or you, same level of lack of trust.
Verify. First.
But if what is released is true, treat it as truth.
Apparently the DNC leaks are in inside job. I have no idea what the latest thing is all about, that's FBI.
The FBI investigation was focused on Hillary having classified stuff on an unsecured server. If it turns out the Husband of Huma had access to classified information through his wife's connections, that could well result in Carlos Danger & his lovely former wife going to jail.
Personally I think it's all flash and a deliberate distraction from any number of more important things. Like Hillary deciding to nuke Brisbane, because she read a memo wrong and thinks Australia is a country next to the Ukraine and Vladimir has sent in troops.
Like Hillary deciding to nuke Brisbane, because she read a memo wrong and thinks Australia is a country next to the Ukraine and Vladimir has sent in troops.
At this point, what difference does it make?
that could well result in Carlos Danger & his lovely former wife going to jail.
I would think that Carlos Danger would be safe from prosecution. It's hard to hold someone responsible for the gross negligence of someone else. His ex-wife though? That should be jail time based on other recent, far less blatant security lapses. I'm still not clear how this involves Hillary's investigation. Is Hillary liable for creating the situation that allowed this gross negligence to occur? I really don't know.
Court is convinced this is something real, and serious. He could be right, I could be just overly cynical. My Mother is furious that this is J. Comey hating Hillary, and thinks it's a political attack. Since that spin is the 24 hour continuous feed, and she's 100% invested in that, it makes sense for her.
The only difference between her & I is who we think is the evil trickster. She thinks it's the Republicans. I think they are too incompetent. My sister thinks it's pure distraction and doesn't care who's waving the flag to distract the bull of public opinion.
Of course, any mention of wikileaked mails is a Republican/Russian plot to take over the world.
I don't know where they're going to get 50 feet of rubber hose and a duck this time of night. Narrf.
There is a video earlier in this thread about the distraction.
It appears - and I hope this is the case - the investigation is very real.
The video postulates that the Weiner factor is the distraction. That there is something much more serious under scrutiny, but they don't want to tip their hand just yet.
>>>>Are they (wikileaks) to be held with high regard or only when it suits your needs.?
That's a good and valid question.
It's been interesting to watch both sides, at the speed of light, realign their "deeply held value systems".
Last week . . . the Clinton camp told us Comey was the embodiment of professional law enforcement. Trump's folks insisted he'd been intimidated.
Today . . . Harry Reid (how embarrassed am I? . .I thought he'd died) wants Comey prosecuted under The Hatch Act.
Toss in that the e-mails . . . the ones that Hillary swore under oath did not exist and the ones, which after receiving a Congressional Subpoena and a Preservation of Records Order, deleted to the tune of 33,000 . . . and then told us "they were all about yoga and wedding plans". . . are high incriminating . . .regardless if they were stolen by Martians, Russians or UCLA Bruins.
Hillary also SWORE UNDER OATH that none were Classified. Then The White House determines that 2,200 are TOP SECRET and can't even be released to the Congressional Committee investigating.
At the very best . . . . I mean . . as if you were Hillary's daughter . . we can agree she's a lying sack of shit.
But . . it appears that she also broke MANY laws. Like she did tens of thousands of times what General David Patreaus did once.
If . . . forbid . . . ANY of those Classified e-mails were among the thousands that Hume forwarded to her and Anthony's yahoo account to be printed (about as illegal as attacking the Pres) . . someone is going to do hard time.
I'm waiting to see some of these TOP SECRET documents appear in a porn video . . . .game changer.
But . . bottom line is . . . Comey is in a tough and rapidly changing spot.
Four FBI Probes Related to the Clintons By Sheryl Attkisson, October 30, 2016
The following information is compiled from allegations contained in news reports and in public interviews by current and former law enforcement officials. All of those involved have denied any wrongdoing.
The FBI reportedly has 4 active probes related to the Clintons. Here’s how they dovetail.
1. Clinton Foundation: Four FBI field offices– New York, Los Angeles, Little Rock and Washington DC– have been involved in a lengthy probe of the Clinton Foundation charity. “Pay to play” allegations include the charity soliciting donations from corporations and foreign countries in exchange for access and policy considerations from then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, which she denies. Emails published this month by Wikileaks reflect consternation among various Clinton allies about the possible appearance of conflicts of interests. Chelsea, the Clintons’ daughter, worried about blurred lines between the charity and the for profit business of one of her father’s aides. In emails, the aide, Douglas Band, discussed how he’d arranged millions of dollars in income for Bill Clinton from foundation donors. He referred to the arrangement as “Bill Clinton, Inc.” Chelsea pleaded with her parents’ confidants to help get the charity’s house in order, and she enlisted outside lawyers to look at the foundation’s business practices. Emails indicate some interviewees told a team auditing the Foundation that donors “may have an expectation of quid pro quo benefits in return for gift[s].” Various FBI and Department of Justice officials have clashed over whether the probe into the charity is worthwhile. In February, senior Justice Department officials reportedly refused to authorize subpoenas, formal witness interviews or a grand jury in the case, believing the evidence was not compelling. In September, FBI investigators on the Clinton Foundation case asked to see the Hillary Clinton emails, but prosecutors reportedly denied them permission.
2. Anthony Weiner sexting: Weiner is the ex-Congressman who resigned in 2011 amid a sexting scandal. He’s married to top Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin. He withdrew from the race for New York mayor in 2013 amid another sexting scandal. And in August this year, he was caught allegedly sexting women again, sometimes with his infant son shown in photos. Abedin announced her separation from Weiner after the latest revelations. The FBI began a probe into whether Weiner had traded sexually explicit texts with a minor, and in the process of examining his computers, investigators ran across evidence of Abedin emails sent to and from Clinton’s insecure private server(s), which the FBI had previously investigated. The FBI Clinton email team met with the FBI Weiner team and they agreed the newly-discovered material was potentially relevant. FBI Director James Comey notified Congress on Friday.
3. Hillary Clinton email: In July, FBI Director Comey said that Hillary Clinton had been “grossly negligent” in the mishandling of classified emails on private servers as secretary of state, but that there was no basis under which to charge her with a crime. However, the revelations of new Abedin emails that could be relevant to the investigation have returned the status of the case to “open.”
4. Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe: Longtime Clinton ally, former Clinton Foundation board member, and former head of the Democratic National Committee, McAuliffe is also said to be under FBI investigation (led by the Washington Field Office). His lawyer has reportedly said the FBI probe is focused on whether McAuliffe failed to register as an agent of a foreign entity. There are also reports that the FBI is looking into six figures in campaign contributions from a Chinese businessman who also pledged $2 million to the Clinton Foundation while the donor was a member of China’s government, the National People’s Congress. Foreigners are prohibited from making political contributions in the U.S., but can donate personally if they have a green card, which the donor reportedly has.
There are also questions surrounding McAuliffe’s campaign donations to the wife of a top FBI official, Andrew McCabe, as these various probes have moved forward. The Wall Street Journal reports that McAuliffe’s political action committee gave McCabe’s wife, Jill, $467,500 in late 2015 for her state senate race (which she lost). The FBI’s McCabe has reportedly been triaging for the two teams investigating the Weiner-Abedin email and the Clinton Foundation probes where they intersect. One official told the Wall Street Journal that on August 12, a senior Justice Department official called McCabe to express displeasure at learning New York FBI agents were still on the Clinton Foundation case. “Are you telling me that I need to shut down a validly predicated investigation,” McCabe reportedly asked. “Of course not,” reportedly answered the official, after a pause.
McCabe reportedly recused himself from a separate McAuliffe matter due to McCabe’s wife’s political contributions from McAuliffe, according to the Wall Street Journal. The McCabes and McAuliffe have denied any conflicts of interest or other wrongdoing.
Alfau. Some students at M.I.T. were bored one day and tested aluminum foil hats in the anechoic chamber.
They discovered a tin foil hat improved reception at frequencies used by the CIA.
This has no meaning in the real world. Human brains aren't radio receivers. It's just funny.
You are correct that some of the movers & shakers of western civilization were Masons. They are quite proud of that.
Henry Ford for example. Not his biggest fan myself but I highly recommend his museum if you are ever near Detroit. They actually let me ride an Ordinary bike around the park. Somehow got mistaken for a curator near the Wright brothers shop. Ended up giving a lecture on the Wright Flyer to a tour group from India.
I've also flown a replica of the 1903 Wright glider at Kitty Hawk, helped build & test fly a Chanute & Lillienthal replica & helped load the "Gossamer Condor" into the Air & Space museum.
That was hilarious. They had a crane ready capable of lifting a DC-6. At one point the Condor was just resting on my shoulder, while they prepped hang points.
That's a great photo you posted. Serious folk who invented car camping & think tanks.
I read through it and it's pretty much documented facts . . . . the recitation of dates, facts and events . . . although now old news . . seems pretty accurate.
Can you help me understand where it becomes extremist?
You said it yourself... "the recitation of dates, facts and events"... Extremist!
Thank you, so much, for so eloquently making my point on the day that the Clinton camp is calling press conferences, invoking Harry Reid, and putting everyone on the tube that they can get on . . . to stress that the information is "too general" and DEMANDING DETAILS.
These folks . . most certainly . . must meet themselves coming and going.
Liars all.
They've been caught red-handed and I suspect things are going to get exponentially more challenging if they found what I suspect they may have..
They've been caught red-handed and I suspect things are going to get exponentially more challenging if they found what I suspect they may have..
You mean with a giant stack of emails with classified information that went through Yahoo (for god's sake) that the Secretary thought she had carefully and completely destroyed after that same information was under subpoena?
And another giant stack with all the pay to play Clinton foundation links that she told her idiot underlings to NEVER put in writing, especially email, because she knew they would be discoverable and that what she was doing was illegal?
Those kids of things?
(Message edited by reepicheep on October 31, 2016)