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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)







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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a theory that when Comey said that nobody knew what he was about to say, he wasn't talking about the final decision to not indict Hillary, but that he was referring to the damning amount of information he was about to lay out that proved that Hillary in fact broke the law. Then at the end, he did exactly as he was instructed, to say that he would not recommend that she be indicted. I'm pretty sure almost everybody knew that was coming.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obama knew otherwise he would not have let Clinton on AF1.

(Message edited by reindog on July 06, 2016)
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They would not have let her NEAR AF1 if the Democrats were within 60 minutes of having no candidate.

Watch Comey . . then watch the shooting in Baton Rouge and ask yourself how much you trust those folks you've been taught to place your trust and safety in the hands of.

We are experiencing a sea change in America.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/07/comeys _game.html

It's possible that Lynch told him there is no way Hillary was going to be indicted.

It's possible he was quietly told that unless he played ball, his family was at risk. ( just because the numerous people who died around the Clintons were all declared suicides and accidents has nothing to do with reality. The Clintons are perfectly capable of ordering a murder. And Obama brags about how good he is at exactly that. )

What is telling is FIRST the FBI head detailed the fact that they had evidence of multiple crimes committed by Hillary and her minions. Not in a nebulous way, but laid out just exactly as he would if he was announcing her arrest.

Then as much as declared the fix was in, and in a not too subtle way implied he didn't think it wise to endanger a Prosecutor by pitting them against the "most transparent administration ever", and their Stalinist tactics for destroying those who oppose them.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/07/wh y_comey_blinked.html
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The American version of the Weimar Republic is in full bloom.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suspected the fix was in the moment Lynch stated, explicitly and curiously, "We will follow the recommendation of the FBI", immediately after meeting with Bill Clinton.

It seemed then like the fix was in. Lynch and Comey are half selling out, and half being played. Both made sure they only have *some* of the blame, and everyone is making sure there isn't any human being actually accountable. Lynch and Comey can just blame each other.

My respect for the FBI, which perhaps naively was as high up the chart as respect gets, just sunk to somewhere around "petty bureaucrat". And it is aiming towards "hired thug".

Without the rule of law, millions will die. It has always worked that way, and will always work that way.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remember what happened to the Weimar Republic? It can happen here and we are vectoring towards it with afterburners on.
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Macbuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hopefully, Comey just lets loose in front of Congress and tells them he was told there would be no prosecution no matter what evidence he found.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Comey made his case for not having a case, based on the idea that it was just carelessness without intent. The thing is, she gave these files to her lawyer, who I remember reading, did not have a security clearance. How is that any different from Petraeus giving records to his biographer? It's not careless handling of information at that point, it's willful violation of the law, complete with intent.

Can she really be allowed to have a security clearance again? (I hate to say, I already know the answer to that.)
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I heard another interesting theory Monday night. Hillary seems to be dressing in clothing that would cover a bullet proof vest.





I'm not sayin' she is, but I'm not sayin' she isn't...
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wouldn't stop a head shot... but that skull is pretty thick
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Mtnmason
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mark and Tom, please refrain from posting any comments that could lead to a mysterious disappearance. You guys contribute too much to this board to not be around

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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm just say'n the woman has a thick skull...

and wide ass
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Comey has got to feel like a total dick . . . . these folks REALLY think the people of American are that stupid . . . .

(Message edited by court on July 06, 2016)
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Alchemy
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was a little concerned watching it live about how Comey drifted from the facts and presented opinions unsupported by the facts he had just stated. I think the guy has some serious credibility but why he would venture from the facts into speculation does not serve him well.

I can understand how spending all those months looking into a bunch of emails and fragments of emails only to come up short would be frustrating. He seemed to spend a lot of time praising his organization for their professional and thorough investigation. The agents working on this certainly deserve some praise for what must have been a very mind-numbing and boring investigation.

Seems like this Clinton avoided the coverup that so frequently becomes the larger issue.
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Orman1649
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Come has got to feel like a total dick . . . . these folks REALLY think the people of American are that stupid . . . ."

The problem is...there are enough Americans that ARE that stupid. Political correctness, safe zones, not knowing what restroom to use and entitlement. All that on top of mouth breathing douche canoes that couldn't care if Obama or Hillary murdered 1000 babies. We must vote for them because its history in the making a woman president, a black commander in chief..wheee!!!!
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Airbozo
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wait, what? Did I miss the thousand baby pyre fire?
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No . . but Hillary is speaking in front of the closed Trump casino in AC (about the nastiest town in the world) . . . this makes me think we will see Trump speaking in front of Solyndra and General Motors next week.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think (maybe hope?) Comey said what he said, the way he said it, to make his point without disobeying what he was told to do. "Yep, she's a criminal but nope, they won't let me prosecute" would have been more direct...but said just about the same damn thing.

Sad to say, especially in the year when we lost my dad (Cmdr, USN Ret.), that I couldn't bring myself to fly the flag on July 4. I'm just...ashamed of what this country is becoming.

I'll order a Betsy Ross flag. So I can be proud of what flies on my house.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seems to me Comey pretty much confirmed that Hillary was guilty of a coverup.

I'm currently under legal hold for several different cases as part of my job. If I did half of what she did in self vetting then permanently removing information, the judge would rightfully declare that all removed information should be assumed to be damning, and both myself and my company would be sanctioned accordingly.

I'd be fired, the courts would rule against whatever defense my company was trying to make, and that would be the end of it.

But the rule of law apparently doesn't apply to Hillary Clinton and her staff. That's the only conclusion here. Cormey, and the entire FBI, ought to be ashamed.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't believe Trump is talking about SoDamnInsane instead of the FBI and Comey.

The more I read about Hillary and Trump, I see they have more in common than they do differences. And that scares me.
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Mtnmason
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The more I read about Hillary and Trump, I see they have more in common than they do differences. And that scares me.



It's coming down to which sides criminality bothers you less.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm currently under legal hold for four different cases as part of my job. If I did half of what she did in self vetting then permanently removing information, the judge would rightfully declare that all removed information should be assumed to be damning, and both myself and my company would be sanctioned accordingly.

I'd be fired, the courts would rule against whatever defense my company was trying to make, and that would be the end of it.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2016 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was talking policy.
Criminality is obviously in the eye of the beholder.
I knew she'd never get indited, and I'll put money on that she'll get pardoned as one of the last things the big o does.
I'm registered Independent, and vote Libertarian, and leaning towards Anarchy.
Demopublicans nad Republicrats have been the same since Reagan in my view.
But what do I know, I'm drain-bamaged
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Snacktoast
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have restrained myself from reacting to this absurd press conference from what's-his-name for 24 hours or so. However, I just can't hold it back any longer.

There is no doubt in my mind that Hillary just got away with something that 99.99999999% of the rest of this country would have been indicted for a felony on.
I wish I could say that I'm surprised, but I'm not. And what does that say about the corruptness of this country.

I've, in the past, been accused of being a pessimist. However, I've contended that realism is more accurate.

It doesn't get more realistic than the bullshit that this situation entails.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Folks that hate conservatives or their values or morals... also don't care much about the second amendment... and the USA as she is today. They want to change it... they have horse blinders on,... on a train... they just don't care about you (if your a conservative) or this country it seems. I sometimes feel like these folks watched a lot of that Star trek first generation. Maybe, if Trump gets a baldy...he will appeal to them. The more I think about it, the more I think that might work.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)











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Airbozo
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a long talk with my F-I-L last night who is a retired FBI agent (still a member of the retired FBI association). He is embarrassed and ashamed of how this whole thing played out. He is also confused as to why it is even up to the FBI director whether or not charges are brought against Hillary. He is of the understanding that it is not the FBI's call whether or not to bring charges and that decision should be up to a grand jury or the justice department. The FBI is there to gather information and present the facts of the case, not make that decision as it is not supposed to be in their charter. It's like having the police decide to bring charges against someone. That is not their job.

He also thought the Director looked pissed and acted as if someone else was pulling the strings.
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