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Blakeaspencer
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 09:35 am: |
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I've been thinking about a bike to sit next to the uly that I can take out when the buell is waiting on parts. I want loads and loads of power. Thus has brought my attention to the KTM super duke 1290 r. Has anyone ridden one and could give me an idea of what it's like? |
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 11:22 am: |
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Like an 1190SX, but worse in every way? Seriously, if you are in that kind of market, and you can head up to WI and pick up a brand new 1190SX for $10k, that's pretty hard to beat. I've never ridden the super duke. My dirt bike buddies all ride orange, and the KTM's are incredible machines for performance, but that comes with a price in terms of reliability. Everything is built (well) on the razors edge of weight and performance limits to get the best race advantage. That's great if that's how you roll, KTM does that better than anybody. Just don't think you are buying a Honda. |
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Blakeaspencer
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 11:30 am: |
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Well how well would the 1190 sx do as a commuter bike? I'm a little concerned that it's more race oriented. Also is ebr all that reliable of a bike? And how often and expensive is the maintenence? |
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Buellish
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 11:36 am: |
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Have you got a good dealer near you?Dealers are nonexistent in some areas. |
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Hughlysses
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 12:18 pm: |
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Based on what I've read from owners of both bikes, I'd think the EBR is at least as reliable as the KTM. The one bad thing on the EBR as far as service is fairly short valve adjustment intervals, only 6000 miles IIRC. I don't know how the KTM compares on that. Looks like the closest dealer would be Dreyer in Whiteland, IN, about 180 miles away. |
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1313
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 12:26 pm: |
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the closest dealer would be Dreyer in Whiteland, IN And what an EXCELLENT dealer they are! I'd go there just to visit with Steve again... 1313 |
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 12:43 pm: |
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I'd say both the 1190SX and the SuperDuke would be a spectacularly good bad idea to use as a commuter. In all the best ways. (The SuperDuke would arguably be more reliable for sourcing future parts. The 1190SX will get a lot better fuel economy. Either one will deliver you to work wearing a really stupid grin, unless you are crawling through traffic) |
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Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 12:59 pm: |
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I agree with Reepicheep, out of the box both aren't really great commuters. I have a SX, it is a fantastic bike but would need some tweaks to make it more realistic for day to day usage. First being the tires, the factory Diablo tires stick like Velcro. The trade off is that they only last around 2k miles, so I'll be throwing some sport touring tires on next. I've read that EBR is working on a 530 chain kit, which would make the chain easier to deal with in the real world. The stock gearing is a bit tall, but changing to a 44 tooth rear sprocket really makes a difference in how the bike feels and gives it a ratio closer to an 1125CR. EBR also has some accessories on the way like a small windshield. But honestly, I wouldn't bother trying to go and making it a sport touring machine when you have a Uly as it is, the SX complements the Uly nice, like two different types of knives. Action Powersports in WI has a 2015 SX, with 1 year dealer warranty for couple bucks under $10k |
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Noone1569
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 01:24 pm: |
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Dreyer is a fantastic dealer. If you're at all interested in trying an SX, shoot me a message and I'll get you in touch with the folks there in a moment that will help you. As for the sx as a daily, I daily rode my rx for 6 months before I broke my leg, 5000 + miles, drove a car 5 times in 6 months. It was excellent. Yeah, it ate the supersport tires pretty quickly, but a set of q3s seemed to last almost twice as long and provide the same stickiness. I've gone up to a better chain and 43 rear tooth and its much more city friendly. |
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Court
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 01:57 pm: |
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Pardon the excursion . . but what parts are you waiting on for your Ulysses? I'm amassed quite a cache of spares . . . but, kind of to my surprise . . . nothing from multiple belts, isolators, cases of oil filters and an assortment of shifters and brake pedals . . .has been more than 24 hours away. Except, the last set of isolators took 3 days. Let me know if you are running into problems getting anything. |
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 02:13 pm: |
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None. So far I can get every Uly part I need in about a week. It was a hypothetical, that's what I meant by "arguably". For KTM parts, you can order them today from a decent sized dealer network, and after you wait a month and a half for them to be shipped from Austria, they are ready to go on your bike (I'm not joking, happened twice that I know about). For the EBR, it is a company bought and being operated by a liquidator. So far, things are better than I would have thought possible, and I am optimistic. I can't say it's zero risk that they might not continue as an operating entity. |
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Blakeaspencer
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 07:14 pm: |
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Dang this thread got big fast! I'm not waiting on parts as of now but they are becoming difficult to come by since Buell Parts and American sportbike are down. I didn't realize the fuel mileage was so bad on the KTM. I'm not really looking to replace the uly just need to satisfy the n+1 syndrome and have something different and more realistic. |
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Sifo
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 07:40 pm: |
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It's a bit of a drive, but MCC in Villa park, IL still had a demo EBR SX a couple of weeks ago. They are also a KTM dealer, so you could compare side by side. |
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Figorvonbuellingham
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 08:13 pm: |
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I don't know about the super duke but ktm dirt bikes have crazy valve adjustment requirements. You practically have to adjust them after every ride ( but if an exaggeration but you get the drift). I rode the 1190 adventure last weekend and my arse was killing me 10 minute s into the ride. The power was good. Comparable to my Aprilia Caponord and its just a Rotax V 990. It wasn't impressive enough to keep me from buying the Suzuki DL1000. If I were choosing between EBR and KTM....I'd get the EBR, slap a different sprocket on it and ride. |
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Malott442
| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2016 - 09:09 pm: |
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I'm going to say it. I've ridden the duke, and owned an sx. The super duke would be a much better commuting bike. The SX is only better for the twisties. The brakes have more bite and feel. The clutch is light. The low and midrange is lunacy. |
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Ourdee
| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2016 - 09:43 pm: |
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I bought parts from Dreyer in the 70s when they were on the West side of Indianapolis. They have been good for a long time. |
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Cycleaddict
| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2016 - 11:00 pm: |
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the super duke can "play" with any sport motorcycle out there . short shift and use bountiful mid-range and the front end is still off the ground for as long as you have talent . did i mention all the motor characteristic modes ? yeah , she is one "Bad" johnson ! evryone should experiance this M/C . its that good |
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Gschuette
| Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2016 - 05:56 pm: |
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3 valve checks/adjustments on the EBR for every 1 on the KTM. How long until Buell goes under again? My KTM has not been the most reliable but at this point, I'll still pay a premium for it over the EBR product. Mine is a first year 1190 adv. The 1290 I have ridden twice and it is a very polished motorcycle with big power when you want it. A very nice bike. |
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