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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You might say that Bush split the Perot vote, giving us Clinton.

But in a sense true.

Stuff happens. The Bull Moose Party, etc. The Republicans were once the upstart abolitionist party, civil rights fought for, won and lost.

Have heart, there's going to be conventions, riots, rivers and seas, boiling, 40 years of darkness, Earthquakes, Volcanoes, the dead rising from the grave, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tom R.,

Are you familiar with the history of nations as the people become self-absorbed pleasure-seekers and coveters of material?

Why do you imagine America will defy the unanimous lessons of history?

I'm convinced that it is inevitable.

If there is to be war, let it come in my time so that it may be spared future generations.

Who said that?
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Really Bill? Reject Cruz cause he campaigned for votes according to his sincerely held principles, but excuse Trump cause the media likes him? Gay freaking marriage? What? What Christian is advocating for the state to impose religious rules???

We're just wanting the boots of the state off of our necks! People are being denied their life savings and their livelihood for declining to participate in celebrations of unrepentant sin.

Well, that went off topic some.

As far as I can tell, Trump is a moral monster by his own bragging admission. It seems problematic and not so easily dismissed by lauding his apparent skill tangling with journalists. What was it he said of Megyn Kelly's? Despicable.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 01:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patrick,

Before the war and discovery of the death camps, lots of good well-meaning folks supported Hitler. Darwinism and eugenics were all the rage.

The Germans in their desire to regain national pride sure liked Hitler.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 06:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very true.

Eugenics is still practiced every day. They just quit using that word. That's why I point out Planned Parenthood has done a "great" job of following their founder's vision. Margaret Sanger gave many speeches here and abroad extolling the virtues of eugenics and her programs to get the "lesser races" to kill their own children in the name of modernity.

Now the rationalization has shifted to Global Warming and the irresponsibility of bringing more children into a crowded world best left to Gaia and the fluffy bunnies. Oddly just western babies. The "noble savage" children are ok if imported as cheap labor.

Frankly I'm surprised there hasn't been birth control drugs slipped into food shipments to the third world. It's on the agenda. I can only guess the forces that inspired Jeb Bush to push for more foreign workers dominate over the population bomb proponents.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The knowledge box says the answer is Thomas Paine who was a superb propagandist at the beginning of the American Revolution but descended into paranoia in later years. It is ironic that Thomas Paine is held up as a guiding light as only six people attended his funeral because of his ridicule of Christianity.

One should refrain from comparing Trump with Hitler as that is a complete failure of an argument. It is as weak a strategy as an ad hominem attack.

I'm convinced that it is inevitable.
I admire this certainty of future events. As for me, I don't know what is for lunch.

I refuse to surrender America. Hillary is a crook. Trump is pro-business and will shake up the establishment. I like that. A lot.

My remarks are proffered with respect.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"As for me, I don't know what is for lunch."

That, ironically, is both a first and third world problem.

From the mind of Douglas Adams:

The History of every major Galactic Civilization tends to pass through three distinct and recognizable phases, those of Survival, Inquiry and Sophistication, otherwise known as the How, Why, and Where phases. For instance, the first phase is characterized by the question 'How can we eat?' the second by the question 'Why do we eat?' and the third by the question 'Where shall we have lunch?


Thought I'd inject a little levity.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice perspective.

Sure we're going to the nether regions in a shopping cart. ( no one uses hand baskets anymore ) Off a waterslide. On youtube.

But it's the NICE, First world argument of which fellow we don't like being hired for a job. To rule us if we guess badly ( like the current folk ) or serve us if we guess well.

Not the third world problem of which evil dictator will take power with violence, ( examples are endless through history... in fact it's the NORMAL PATTERN ) or the Progressive problem of those who win the election and then use violence to keep power, like Venezuela, recently.

Much nicer. Even Hillary hasn't threatened to kill me for not cheering her. For being a citizen opposed to her agenda, sure. ; )
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tom,

Some things are certain.

According to the best science, absent metaphysical intervention, the sun will eventually engulf Earth, and ultimately the universe will fall to entropy, turning frigid, dark and lifeless.

What you might have for lunch may not be governed by inevitability, some things however are. The decline of self-absorbed immoral people/societies and their nations is one of them.

My point is that the fight you need to join and win is the one to return our society to sound moral standing. Absent that, nothing we do will improve the politics, as liars, deceivers, coveters, cheater and thieves unashamed of their lies, deception, covetousness, cheating and stealing will continue to rule the day.

(Message edited by blake on May 11, 2016)
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tom,

I appreciate your thoughtful engagement. Like I said, I hope Trump rises to the occasion and changes my mind.

If not, then he will continue to embody too much that is so deadly wrong with our society, and there is no way that I can endorse him by my vote.

My point re the Hitler comment was only that one mere admirable quality means little. It must be the overall character of a person that is considered.

The converse of that is also true, right Bill? : )
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patrick,

So true re the PP reference. I almost mentioned it.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The sun will eventually engulf Earth and go supernova"

Red giant, though Earth will die about a billion years before that happens, as the sun will expand significantly before it enters the red giant phase. Our sun will not go supernova. It's not supermassive enough.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the correction. Edited above for accuracy.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You're so very rarely ever wrong, that I couldn't help myself. : )
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It just sounded so much more cool.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have to agree with Hoot...

Our home will be a crisped, darkened and, eventually cold cinder.... not blown in atoms to the edges of space to form new stars. Right away. The tuesday after that? hard to tell. Recycling happens. Entropy sucks.

The civilization as we know it here definitely being toast is fairly certain.

We are in the happy position of still being allowed to argue about the small details of our civilization. I have little doubt everyone here would all fight the invading aliens.... ( lizard people or other )

Ok, "freakyfast" would collaborate, and Alfau would tell us it's all Nancy Reagan's fault. ( but he'd be fighting on our side )
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ya know, I voted for Little Mr. Big Ears(Perot) both times he ran.
I really wanted him to win, but knew all I did was give myself justification to bitch about reality. he wasn't gonna win...

I honestly trust Trump more than Cruz(sorry Blake).
The Hilde-beast won't be happy till we are "New Lichtenstein".

Trump's our best shot at reviving our beleaguered middle class.

I don't really want to be a 1% rich mofo, but I DO want to live without fearing the "end of the month".

Z
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I truly hope all the Trump supporters are right. Cruz is irrelevant at this point. He'd make a killer AG though.

I don't think Trump can beat Hillary. Too many women hate Trump, and the media will eviscerate him. He has far too many stains and failings.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 07:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/20 16/05/11/trump-derangement-syndrome/

Very good analysis of Hillary's job as sec state. Arguably ISIS is Hillary's baby.

Much as I have issues with FDR's ideology, he did not contribute fundamentally in the creation of the National Socialist Workers Party in Germany.

In that analogy, Hillary shipped Hitler's Brown shirts guns to gain power and promoted Krystalnacht.
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2016 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great Breitbart article. I have posted in to my FB page.
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2016 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stand at attention you hard-core BaddyWeb Conservatives. : )

Read this opinion piece and maybe, just maybe, y'all will start seeing a ray of sunshine with pretty boy Trump.

excerpt: Many on the right accurately chide Trump for not being “a consistent conservative.” Among others, Trump’s trade and entitlement-reform positions confirm this. But Trump’s enthusiasm for the Second Amendment and his embrace of a 15 percent corporate tax, ObamaCare repeal, health savings accounts, waterboarding and securing the southern “border” demonstrate that he’s quite conservative — if not every time, then many times.

Clinton, however, is not a consistent conservative. She is not even an occasional conservative. She is an anti-conservative. Nowhere is Hillary to the right of Lincoln . . . Chaffee. She favors devolving power and tax dollars to the state.... never.

http://nypost.com/2016/05/12/why-never-hillary-tru mps-never-trump/
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2016 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is possible Stalin was right of Hillary.

On the "more left the more of their own people they murder" scale ( Obvious from the last century of human history ) That means President Hillary can be predicted to murder more than 300 million people.

Probably for Global Warming Denial.

Or having sex with her husband.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2016 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

She doesn't care. About either. Both are vehicles for the acquisition for power, nothing more. I guess, in that respect, she does care.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435274/immig ration-elites-support-illegal-immigration-working- class-suffers
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