| Author | Message | ||
     Wolfridgerider |
My niece has 2006 Ford Explorer with 160,000 miles on the clock. Well, she drove it a little to far after it started to over heat and toasted the motor. First place she took it to offered her $100 bucks for it or $8000 to fix it. Needless to say, she wont be dealing with them. I called a shop that I deal with and for a Jasper motor installed that comes with a 3 year 100,000 mile warranty would be $4900 plus tax. So what do you guys think? Not my circus but it is one of my Monkeys... | ||
| Ratbuell |
How's the rest of the truck? How much does she love it? You can buy a lot of decent SUV for 5 grand... | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I think its going to go bye bye. Book is only $5000 Just sucks to be a single Mom and have this big turd drop into her lap. | ||
| Ratbuell |
True. But there's that temp gauge (and warning light) for a reason. Bet she never ignores another one! Sucks, but no more than the first time you stick a penny in a light socket. And it's generally the last time you stick a penny in a light socket! | ||
| Rick_a |
I'd opt for a reasonable mileage junk yard motor swap. Been there, done that once. | ||
| Greg_e |
$1500 should get a motor and if you are lucky another $500 or so to install it. The big question is what really went boom? If just heads, then that should be a lot less money. | ||
| Etennuly |
My brother just fell into the trap of buying a nice SUV with a blown motor. '07 Durango. Same mileage and values but a dodge engine is nearly three G's used and 4500 reman. He can do the $2000 worth of installation work, but when it is all done it will be worth $4500 to $5000 and one like it can be bought running and driving for that. He asked me what to do. I told him to part it out, or shop for a wrecked one that he can put his parts on. Unless you have an eye in the parts field and a lot of patience to wait for what you need to come along.....it can be better to dig a hole and bury the problem, then move on. It is hard make sense of fixing anything now days that is value killed. | ||
| Mtnmason |
If it still turns over - before any big $ is spent - run 2 treatments of "Therma-gasket" through the motor. It's only available on-line and thus, a 'snake-oil' fix-it type deal BUT, I can personally attest to having seen the stuff reunite a head and block with so much warpage that you could fit two quarters in between at the middle. The left head also had a crack running from the base to the valve cover right near one of the corner bolts. That Nissan 240sx continued on for another 10K+ miles incident free until it was sold. Can you actually look at the motor yourself to asses any visible damage? (Message edited by mtnmason on April 19, 2016) | ||
| Teeps |
There is no way to know what is best for her. Without knowing her complete life situation, and assuming she has little to no money, I'd look into a salvage engine, and hope for the best. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
It's hard to believe that you couldn't get yourself a junkyard engine for less than $1000. I lost my old van's 318 many years ago and it was cheap as hell to get it swapped out. $300 for the compression tested engine from a 'yard and $350 for a guy to shove it under there. There is a lot more to a newer vehicle's engine, I know but still there should be junkyards nearby with crashed donors all over the place. | ||
| Brother_in_buells |
If you go for a salvage engine ,make sure it's one from the same year or same engine type ,compare the engines with each other (crank position sensor etc etc) ,because all those electrics the engines have these days can make it a big pain in the *** if there is something different! | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
She tossed in the towel and bought a Ford Edge.... don't know why you would want another Ford when the last one you had took a dump.... but what do I know. Thanks for all the input! | ||
| Hootowl |
Ford makes good vehicles. Your original post made it sound like she blew the engine by running it for too long while it was overheating. Can't blame ford for that. | ||
| Froggy |
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| Badlionsfan |
If that Exploder had the 4.0 it did her favor. That edge will pay for itself in fuel savings! | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
it did have the 4.0 Come to find out the Edge has a internal water pump that likes to crap out between 40 to 100k miles Takes 11 hours shop time to fix if it doesn't lock up and grenade the motor. Big thanks to James for all the info and pic... if ya ever make it back to badweb  | ||
| Swampy |
Goodness! Why? Explain Why would you put something that has shaft seals and gaskets holding pressurized water INSIDE your engine? | ||
| Hootowl |
"Explain Why would you put something that has shaft seals and gaskets holding pressurized water INSIDE your engine?" Overconfidence in their under-engineered pump? | ||
| Hootowl |
My VW PD TDI water pump is driven by the timing belt. But it's a belt, so it's not inside the oil cavity like it is on the engine above. That's pretty stoopid. | ||
| Court |
In the day of the $89/month lease . . . I'd think twice before putting $5,000 in a 10 year old vehicle. My Ford had it's 3rd birthday in September . . .turned over 100,000 about a month ago and is sitting at 105,380 today. It's the best car IO've ever had . . . not so much as a hiccup driving thousands of miles a week. It's had Amsoil Signature Syn oil and filter ever 10,000 and brakes, shocks and the tires rotated at all the prescribed intervals. The finishing, kept fresh with Meguiers and Griots surface clay could pass for lot as could the engine bay. The problem, these days, is that all that means squat. All that comes in to play is mileage so the ONLY thing for me to do is to enjoy it . . . and I am. New black spoked wheels and great tires last week and it handles great. Dealer sent me the order form for a new one . . .it's fllled out and the car has until the first major mechanical and it's gone. But . . given how well they are now built . . . I wouldn't be surprised to see it go to 200,000. We shall see. | ||
| Etennuly |
The thing about motor vehicles is the second kill factor other than mileage. TIME. I have been in the auto repair business for my life's main event. I have seen countless times a car that would go 200,000 miles in a few years effortlessly, without problems. But then be the same car that when parked for weeks at a time, in accumulating say 50,000 miles over ten years, could most likely have one failure after another. High miles in a short time can be easier to achieve in a vehicle's mileage life span than fighting the time monster and it's deterioration factors. | ||
| Court |
That makes sense. My car . . . with 105,000+ . . . could about pass for new . . . it may go another 100,000. But I put the miles on at the rate of about 1,000/wk and it's "easy" mileage . . . highway driving at 50-60mph. I once bought 96 3/4 Ton Chevrolet K20 4X4 pickup trucks with 350c.i. motors and 4 speed xm for a construction project. The project was delayed for a year . . . during which the trucks sat. When we went to work seals leaked and things broke. I learned that the worst thing you can do to a vehicle is not use it. | ||
| Rick_a |
My wife bought an old Dodge pickup that was owned by an elderly couple and sat for years. That thing was a project for as long as we owned it. | ||
| Blake |
The heat of a running engine is an effective deterrent to the corrosive and polluting effects of accumulated condensation. And for the GM variety, frequent operation may hinder the effects of the scabees, termites, tapeworms and other big govt related communicable pests & parasites. That said, y'all are putting the curse on my '02 F250 with just 140K miles. I call it my "truck of the apocalypse". About 5K per year is all it sees these days. It sits outside next to Michele's '07 Saab. Not sure why, but I've developed an aversion to new vehicles. Last new car we purchased was a 1994 Ford Explorer. It was ultra-reliable; we sold/traded it to the Shreveport Saab dealer in 2008 with 225K miles, still running perfectly. I've owned more motorcycles than cars and trucks. Since purchasing my first car, a 1970 Chevelle SS, in 1982, I've only owned two other vehicles of the four wheel genre. The Saab is #3 for Michele too. Life is good. | ||
| Crusty |
I like Fords. I like Chevys. They're both excellent vehicles. For what it costs to fix the '06 Exploder in the original post, I'd just buy a replacement vehicle. | ||
| Zac4mac |
I have a similar situation in a 2004 Buick Ranier. Power everything, it's like my mom's Denali but older and a bit smaller. It has developed a bad knock that I think is a broken conn rod. Just so I get it sorted by August... |
