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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Talk of power outages and stuff? Sounds wacky...

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/10/28/ 452585191/giant-surveillance-blimp-untethers-and-d rifts-over-pennsylvania
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 03:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Drag a steel cable over power lines. Better use a balloon so you don't instantly die. You get shorts and blow equipment.

Heard the radio call it a hijacked blimp. NBC news. Morons. They don't understand anything.

Rope breaks. Steel or cotton.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 07:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Heard the radio call it a hijacked blimp. NBC news. Morons. They don't understand anything.




CNN is still looking for the blimp on the moon, and Fox News said it is Obama's fault.
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CNN is still looking for the blimp on the moon, and Fox News said it is Obama's fault.

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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A 200 million dollar balloon?

Yeah, I'd say shit rolls uphill... Obama's fault.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Rope breaks. Steel or cotton."

I've never seen a rope break. I've seen lines break. : )
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've never seen a rope break. I've seen lines break.

I have. I've seen wire rope let go and I once saw a 2 1/2 " diameter nylon rope snap. a Tow was tied off in a Lock on the Mississippi River, and the boat started backing out before the rope could be freed. It sounded like a cannon when it broke.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I have"

No, what you saw was a line snap. Rope can't snap because it is never under tension.

Look it up : )
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also have seen 1/2" cable (wire rope) part, that is the correct term, while plumbing up tall buildings in Chicago, years ago as a structural ironworker using large turnbuckles. It does sound like dynamite going off, if it just snaps, and unless it unravels slowly, less then 10 seconds, it could do some real damage to the human body.

As far as soft line (rope) is concerned many high load situations now a days, many times they are using rope made from spectra fibers. Said to be 10 times stronger then nylon our most widely used rope for high strength but which stretches considerably. Spectra has very little stretch. Whatever happened to the military balloon will be interesting to know, if we ever do.

As an avid Muskie fisherman I use a spectra fiber fishing line called Power Pro in 65# test and once snagged and pulled up a tree branch that I estimated at 200 lbs. Unbelievable strength to weight ratio and well under rated. Great stuff for sure. Some of the new technology really does impact our everyday lives. And yes sometimes "S***" does happen. Still probably a military blunder while trying to keep us safe. Money better spent elsewhere IMHO. Bob
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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Look it up" under what?
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

google the difference between a rope and a line.
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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah, I see. A pedantic nautical difference...



I can now see why you piss up a rope and not a line: the line could violently snap, and then... {shudder}
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nautical nomenclature error.
file not found.
Access apology subroutine.
Bsod.
Reboot.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just wanted to share...now you too can trip people up with pedantic and esoteric terminology. : )
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As opposed to tripping them up with a piece of broken rope.

Line.

Whatever.

As for the blimp, we (Maryland) did get whacked with the remnants of a hurricane yesterday. Methinks some Enlisted needs to go back to knot class....
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Court
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I broke a 1" steel winch line on a D-8 Caterpillar once . . . that was exciting.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the rope is being used for a purpose, it's a line.
Therefore if you lay out a rope for the purpose of tripping a person, it's the trip line.
If one trips over a rope that is not set aside for the purpose of tripping, it is indeed tripping on a rope.

Either way, you are tripping.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But when does a rope become a sheet?
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is a coil of rope being used for decorative purposes actually a coil of line?
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think my line (don't want to get roped in any farther) is going to be, I don't give a sheet.
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

become a sheet?when you are trying to push that moth#€ŁĄ%#+€ up a hill in the rain!
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hawser.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who's pushing rope? Certainly not me. Not yet, anyway.
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Tootal
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought rope was for smokin!
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tootal, maybe my friend, but only Manila hemp

(Message edited by Bob_thompson on October 29, 2015)
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Tootal
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm. You do a LINE of cocaine and you smoke ROPE. Seems odd that these two words would be drug related???

By the way, the blimp has landed.

Now back to the previously hijacked thread...
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2015 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm more surprised airplanes haven't flown into the damn things. There is an airport adjacent to one of the aerostats and at night you'd never know they are there.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2015 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, pilots know they are/were there. Notice to airmen (NOTAM) has them prominently shown.

Plus the darn hawser. Plus the "we aren't kidding we will shoot you down" area. That part of the planet is full of no go zones.

Not just political paranoia. Navy test center. When you have to come down right now in a supersonic jet you can't wait for Cessnas to move, so there are cleared areas. ( that you sometimes can cross with permission ..... and others you better not or the last thing you might see is a dark dot surrounded by fire. ) When Air Force One is active they may not ask twice.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, October 30, 2015 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You mean like civilian pilots know where Washington, D.C. is yet still fly into that restricted airspace?



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