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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I disagree with you on several subjects, and I don't want Bernie to be President.

But I agree he's currently getting screwed by the same leftist, stoner Media that fawns over Trump. Sure they hate him, but they also pimp the daylights out of him, because they think Hillary can beat him.

You notice they don't like to mention the Republican candidates that are Black, or Women, or sane?

Unless Hillary breaks whatever deal she has with Barry to suppress the truth about his actions in return for the Job, I don't see Hillary getting anything but cover and the Nomination. Makes no difference what kind of monster she is. It Has Been Decided.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree Todd, the media bias can cut many ways, not just "liberal".

The Clinton machine knows how to play the media like a fiddle.
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Tod662
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2015 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Like I've said before look into Jeb or Christie or Perry or most defiantly Scotty the tool (and most of the other passengers in trumps jalopy)and there is even more dirt then what took 8 different congressional panels and untold hours and dollars to find what? Give me a target, any one of them and there is more dirt them what's on Hillary.

So as you guys see it, the media is not just biased but they are ALLLLLLL in cahoots supporting Hillary, gosh and you guys think some of the things I say are out there. If there was any truth to your slant, Ed Schultz and Imus would be on yet. The reporters and anchors may lean left (huh educated worldly people think that way, who would of imagined!) but who owns the conglomerates? You really think these 6 corporations are not keeping the reigns tight?
But if Hannity/Beck/O'Reilly/Rush tell you the media is all leftist, its got to be true!! wake the f up

They will lap up ANY swill what makes a profit, but at the end of the day they know how to make money in the long run, and Hillary isnt as good for them as the clowns are.

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/10/23/owns-media -6-monolithic-corporations-control-almost-everythi ng-watch-hear-read/



The fourth pillar has been smashed and sold at trinkets for the donor class, and they built a commode with the remnants
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are half right.

The other half is egotistical delusion. I'll be more specific later if you wish.

Journalism majors are left. History majors are centrist.
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Alfau
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Choose God as ruler Slug.
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Alfau
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was your egotistical delusion that inspired me to say that.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"History majors are centrist."

Eh, slow down, not all.
I just graduated with a history degree and I know of a few far right people and a few far left.
Honestly, if you are a historian and still have a slant to your research then you have failed at being a historian.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sort of my point.

Sure..... saying all x is anything is incorrect.

Not all Christians burn Witches.
Not all journo students are neo-commies. But most of their teachers are.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://observer.com/2015/08/the-countless-crimes-o f-hillary-clinton-special-prosecutor-needed-now/

Dang. When he says it that way, it sounds really bad. : (
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tod, is seems as if you have no understanding of what is going on with Hillary. It's not about "dirt" as you claim. It's about committing felonies and disregard for our national security. These are things that should disqualify her from being POTUS. You also seem to excuse her for destruction of evidence, as long as it's complete enough to not get caught. She's failed at that to some extent though. To defend her actions in all of this either requires a great level of ignorance, or complete dishonesty. Tell me you are ignorant of her actions, and I will help you out.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also Tod, I hate to disappoint you, but if Hillary goes down in flames as it appears she is, Sanders isn't the back up plan. It's double barrel Joe. So it is written. You know who writes it, don't you?
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Zane
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even worse that good ol uncle Joe...

Whispers of Al Gore running again.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/al-gores-friends-ai des-eyeing-2016-race/story?id=33072322
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't the Dems have any potential candidates that aren't old, white, and wrinkled?

I'm starting to wonder where young voters may turn this election.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't wait to hear the questions that are asked of Hillary in the debates on national security!
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Tod662
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/03/10/flashback- when-millions-of-lost-bush-white-hous/202820


So how is it the great leftest media didnt make this into as big of a story as Hillarys emails? Rove belongs in prison too , right?

And what about the 4 men that you guys were sure she caused the death of that started this? How is it that story has been left at the wayside. And if you blame it on the leftist media you are twice as ignorant as you would like to think I may be. Is there any proof of wrong doing in that quarter that started this witch hunt? And yes I am ignorant to the subject, to my knowledge the extent of wrong doing ive seen (dont pay attention to the story) is that she was in possession of 2 emails that were later classified top secret.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny, pointing to wrong doing to justify wrong doing. Were any of those emails from "White House staffers" dealing with top secret national security issues? I doubt it. How many people died as a result of those firings? The safe money would bet on zero. How many of those 22 staffers then ran for the office of the President. The safe money would bet on zero. There is a difference in both the severity of the transgression, and the level of trust and power asked for later. You are comparing apples and oranges.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2015 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rove belongs in prison too , right?

If guilty, I'm good with that.

Sifo, I think you are, perhaps, falling for the "narrative". The Clintons have long used the tactic of "drip drip drip" leaking one tiny half crime at a time, weekly or even faster if the media parrots them fast enough. The logic is people get tired of hearing critics of the Clintons harp on small change criminality & morality. The long term result is to make the accumulated criminality ignorable by the Media and the biased.

Arguing about HOW MANY e-mails of WHICH classification is not productive. If anything each little "mistake" is easily, if illogically, explained away, over time. Even, as in THIS case, the crimes are simply additional counts on the admitted crime of destroying documents.

That she is guilty of a cover up is not even in question.

So the Clintons get away with a lot, just by being skillful P.R. manipulators.

Next week, what do you guess the "drip" will be?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Todd, the secretary of state is an employee of the US people, acting on the authority of the US people, a accountable to the US people.

The FOI laws (Freedom of Information) set out exactly the legal process for the American people to implement that accountability. It provides a means of responsible review and disclosure for, well, anything any US citizen wants to know about.

The more serious step is subpoena. When you believe a crime has been committed, the subpoena process provides a means to get the evidence to either prove or disprove the crime. If you have something that you believe could be subject to subpoena, and you destroy it to avoid it being found, that in and of itself is a crime regardless of if it actually was evidence, or if a crime was committed or not.

There is only one reason, from day one, why Hillary would run her own email server (in violation of the rules of the state department). It is so she can hold herself above the law. In doing so, she put her own self interests in front of the good of the country, because there is no way that email server could be secured against enemies foreign and domestic without a mature professional infrastructure.

Indeed, google announced a breach where many "private" email accounts of government officials were breached by foreign intelligence, explicitly because these private email services are likely to have valuable information but are much easier to break into.

A leader who does not hold themselves subject to the rule of law is not a leader, they are a tyrant.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tod's continued defense of the tyrant is puzzling.

He favors her opponent, and she's bragged about destruction of public documents. I will be amazed if the Social Justice dept. attempts a conviction, not because she is innocent but because It is corrupt. That however, depends on what arrangements Hillary has with Barry. We won't know that until the tell all books come out in a few years. If ever. Barry's regime is harsh on apostates. And curious reporters.

The fact the Media is pimping for Hillary and ignores Bernie is also obvious. It's more understandable Tod is confused by that. Also understandable why conservatives and old school liberals like me expect them to be parrots for the regime. Does Tod know that Barry's staff has a daily conference to tell the Media what the mantra of the day is?
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)









(Message edited by SIFO on August 15, 2015)
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Debunked

http://www.examiner.com/article/debunked-bernie-sa nders-tweet-quoting-karl-marx-is-fake

It's getting easy to believe the unbelievable these days though. Nothing shocks. The Clinton machine has been boiling frogs for decades. Our founders would revolt. Again.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pulled it Hootowl. Thanks.

Meanwhile...

CNN National Security Analyst Unloads On Hillary Over Email Scandal: ‘I Wonder Whether She Is Capable Of Being President’


quote:

Hillary Clinton’s email scandal should disqualify her from the Oval Office.

At least so says former CIA operative and CNN national security analyst Bob Baer, who is not known for being a political partisan.

“If this was on her server and it got into her smart phone, there’s a big problem there,” Baer said during an appearance on CNN International Saturday, noting that the sensitivity of the information reportedly found on Clinton’s private server was likely more secret than what Edward Snowden pilfered.

“Seriously, if I had sent a document like this over the open Internet I’d get fired the same day, escorted to the door and gone for good — and probably charged with mishandling classified information,” Baer said.

“If this in fact were on her hand held [phone] — was sent to her or she forwarded it in any way — I wonder whether she is capable of being president,” he added.

Pressed by the host as to whether he really thought this situation was a “deal breaker” for Clinton’s presidential candidacy, Baer said, “As a national security employee, a former one, yes.”

“I can’t tell you how bad this is,” he went on. “A lot of things get talked about, a lot of gossip, but having documents like this sent across the Internet, it could be hacked very easily and probably were hacked, is a transgression that I don’t think the President of the United States should be allowed to, you know, have committed.”


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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it's important to not lie about politicians, human beings, and pets. They are funny enough as it is, and it cheapens the experience to mock people with lies.

Not too good for your own soul, if you are inclined to believe is such...

.....boiling frogs for decades
Drip drip drip. Interesting tactic, seems to work for them. It would be amusing to string together the slow motion train wreck of a typical Clinton Scandal.

"Don't even know that woman.........yes she worked for me but we had no inappropriate contact..........There's no truth to the lies put out by...........She may have taken video, but the President had no idea........(seven weeks later)....Sure we had sex on the White House lawn, but no one said anything about cannibalism.........It's a terrible tragedy about the missing Zebra, but the White House denies anyone in the First Family confused the X-box for the Drone Controller............we've always been allies with Eurasia, Eastasia has always been a hostile force against world peace........."

Write your own. They do.

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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Tod about the "Media" seeming to deliberately ignore Bernie.

One of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of Media is the Editors, Producers, and up get to decide what is news-worthy.

Hillary tells 10 professional minions & reporters in a fake conference she's going to make Collage Free, and it's her promise to the crowd at the well attended rally. On Every Channel heavy rotation.

Bernie has a crowd of 30,000, and promises Free College, Beer and Social Security, and explains how, and it gets 3 lines on Drudge.

Just not newsworthy. aka The fix is in.

As to motivations, I can only guess.

Aren't there 2 other Dems running? Some dude from Maryland? From the coverage on radio rotation I wouldn't know their names.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is the guy that all I know about is that he plays guitar. Maybe he will do that for the "talent portion" of the debate.
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Pellis
Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2015 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are 18 declared Democratic candidates at this time.
http://2016.democratic-candidates.org/?sort=alphab etically&sex=&other=


I would say the powerful tool of the media is the power to ignore.
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Sifo
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2015 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://nypost.com/2015/08/14/hillarys-lame-e-mail- excuse-the-server-did-it/

It happened sooner than even the doomsayers predicted. The era of artificial intelligence is here. A computer has become self-aware, a moral agent responsible for its own actions.
This breakthrough didn’t happen in Silicon Valley or at MIT. It happened, of all places, in Chappaqua, NY. And the person responsible isn’t even a computer scientist, but a lawyer and politician: Hillary Clinton.
Clinton’s critics say a lot of things about her, but who would’ve believed she was Skynet’s mother?


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422587/hilla rys-emails-benghazi

short form. Hillary's destruction of evidence may mess up the prosecution of a terrorist.

The Obama folk still insist he "spontaneously" decided to gather a few buddies with crew served weapons to protest a suspected U.S. "listening post".

Thanks to the NYT, we now know it was no such thing, but instead a station for gun running to terrorists in Syria, apparently ISIS, ( Or ISIL, screw you Israel, according to Barack Obama ) making Barry Unique in history.

Apparently Hillary & Barry together not only started ISIS, but armed them as well, making Barry not only Neville Chamberlain, but also the main arms supplier to Adolph Hitler.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, August 17, 2015 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2015 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/17/we sley-pruden-hillary-clintons-email-scandal-back-/
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