| Author | Message | ||
     Mr_grumpy |
Another thing that you have to take into account when dealing with Sean is that he's a Yorkshireman. For those of you that may not understand what that means & entails, the nearest American equivalent would be "Texan". Try to bear this in mind. | ||
| Chauly |
Innes, is that pejorative or laudatory? | ||
| Aesquire |
Lauditory. Rocket & I seem to have the same breed of stubborn. Midwest farmers & factory. .... British miners and factory. .... we disagree on some stuff with passion. Quite alike in others. I don't Want to believe that Barry is the secret instigator of WW4. That doesn't mean it isn't true. I have so far assumed his open desire to punish Western civilization was limited to wrecking our economy, preserving the racist plantation, and giving Eurasia, Europe, & Africa to his Muslim rapist buddies. Starting a planetary war seemed stretching it to me. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Hmmm, Chauly it can be either or both.  It's that ingrained knowledge that YOU are from THE GREATEST PLACE ON EARTH bar none, no matter what anybody else says. No true Yorkshireman would ever say that anywhere else is better than Yorkshire, & any person venturing the hypothesis that the case maybe otherwise is therefore not a true Yorkshireman and consequently has opinions that, if not wrong, certainly have a lesser value. Any non Yorkshire person (myself included) is to be pitied & tolerated, much as a retarded distant relative may be. If you should happen to find a Yorkshireman shouting & raving in the street, in all probability he's not a loony he's just temporarily run out of people to argue with. Those of you who have Yorkshire friends will understand & accept them as they are though, for there is no truer or generous friend. A Yorkshireman is for life not just for an argument! | ||
| Cityxslicker |
The video that they are passing around as a 'Russian' Mobile crematory furnace truck on a Kamaz chasis ...... Is actually a Volvo - Ukraine bought 3 of them to kill off stray dogs prior to the 2012 World cup soccer game. And the State dept is so f*cking stupid - they can't tell the difference between a Volvo and a Kamaz. F*ck I hate these morons. The video that is going around https://youtu.be/GsJort1d7mU The longer version shows the side shot of the truck https://youtu.be/zWrm-dkj2QI VOLVO truck http://www.volvotrucks.com/trucks/ukraine-market/u k-ua/trucks/volvo-fmx/Pages/the-new-volvo-fmx.aspx Kamaz truck http://www.kamazexport.com/trucks/cargo-body-truck s the cab is completely different. so we are to assume that under the present sanctions - that Putin bought the trucks from Volvo ??!?!!? or is it more likely that STATE Dept - doesn't know what the f*ck they are talking about - AGAIN. PS - Kiev is using them to burn bodies; it is not bacon in the air - it is the same stench of Bosnia - you never get it out of your head. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Volvo FM 6x2, I used to drive a sleeper cabbed one with a 3axle drawbar hanging on the back. Superb tool one of the most comfortable vehicles I've ever driven. | ||
| Chauly |
"A Yorkshireman is for life not just for an argument!" As long as it's a genuine argument, and not just simple 'gainsaying of what I just said... I want to get the argument I paid for! | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Just the 5 minutes or the full half hour? | ||
| Hootowl |
That's 5 minutes just now. Good bye. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
No it isn't .... It wasn't just five minutes now... (there will never be an adequate replacement for that troop) | ||
| Hootowl |
I'm not going to argue with you Brian. You haven't paid. Unless you'd like some abuse. That is always free around here, you malodorous pervert.  | ||
| Fast1075 |
It's pining for the fjords!!!! | ||
| Cityxslicker |
May the beatings continue until morale improves ! | ||
| Fast1075 |
And now, The Larch! | ||
| Hootowl |
The Larch. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I never wanted to fight this battle, I wanted ... to be a lumber jack, in the woods, with my best girlie by myside....and I would ride in MUD - RIDE and ... and I would SING... ok - I wouldn't sing - but I would rather be covered in mud riding a motorcycle PS - Kiev Killed 6 more in Donetsk with their artillery last night. And in AMAZING physics - they are saying that the outbound shelling from Separatist has destroyed the buildings and murdered their own Donbass citizens. 8?/ Really. You can't make this sh*t up. I am sure the # crew from DC buys it. | ||
| Aesquire |
Buys it? Not as such. No one outside the administration knows what's going on. No one with a brain believes the administration. Stuff does happen. Remember the Regan bombing of Libya? The French embassy got hit and they blamed us. The picture of the damage clearly showed the tail of a SA-2. Russian anti aircraft missile. What goes up....... | ||
| Fast1075 |
Those boys didn't miss the target, just the senior dictator wasn't home. When an Aardvark came calling, they handed the bomb to you, at 200 feet flying Mach+. They got a good old fashioned ass kicking. Up close and personal. Too bad the senior madman wasn't home. He got the message though. Ronnie didn't need to send the Marines for a visit. Again. (Message edited by fast1075 on June 03, 2015) | ||
| Aesquire |
The bad thing is Obama overthrew Kaddafi in a war for oil without telling Congress, getting any kind of permission, except from the Europeans who apparently wanted oil. I'd be happy to turn Barry over to the International Court for War Crimes, but the SS probably won't let me. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Well most everybody else who's been in the White House lately has had a war for oil, why should he be left out. He just wanted one of his very own that was better than everybody else's. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-age ncy.html?_r=0 Every day at the Internet Research Agency was essentially the same, Savchuk told me. The first thing employees did upon arriving at their desks was to switch on an Internet proxy service, which hid their I.P. addresses from the places they posted; those digital addresses can sometimes be used to reveal the real identity of the poster. Savchuk would be given a list of the opinions she was responsible for promulgating that day. Workers received a constant stream of “technical tasks” — point-by-point exegeses of the themes they were to address, all pegged to the latest news. Ukraine was always a major topic, because of the civil war there between Russian-backed separatists and the Ukrainian Army; Savchuk and her co-workers would post comments that disparaged the Ukrainian president, Petro Poroshenko, and highlighted Ukrainian Army atrocities. Russian domestic affairs were also a major topic. Now, this of course could well be disinformation from the NYT. This newspaper has a long history of outright lies. But usually the lies are Pro-Stalin/Enemies of Freedom and anti-U.S. I suppose their relationship with Obama could be behind this story... however, it got picked up by a U.S. pundit, who noticed it matched comments on his web site. Some are probably from the Obama Administration's version of the Russian professional troll squads, since they are virulently rude anti-Obama rants. ( in an effort to portray his audience as evil racist deniers, supposedly ) http://www.glennbeck.com/2015/06/03/unbelievable-v ladimir-putin-targets-theblaze/ More from the NYT article. After following the accounts for a few weeks, I saw a strange notification on Facebook. One account, which claimed to be a woman from Seattle named Polly Turner, RSVPed to a real-life event. It was a talk in New York City to commemorate the opening of an art exhibit called Material Evidence. I was vaguely aware of Material Evidence, thanks to eye-catching advertisements that had appeared in subway stations and on the sides of buses throughout New York City: a black-and-white photo of masked men in camouflage, overlaid with the slogan “Syria, Ukraine … Who’s Next?” Material Evidence’s website described it as a traveling exhibition that would reveal “the full truth” about the civil war in Syria, as well as about 2014’s Euromaidan revolution in Ukraine, through a combination of “unique footage, artefacts, video.” I clicked on the Material Evidence talk and saw that a number of other trolls had been invited, including my old friend I Am Ass. Walking into Material Evidence, mounted last September in the cavernous ArtBeam gallery in Chelsea, was like walking into a real-life version of the hall of mirrors I’d stumbled into on Facebook. A sign at the front declared that the show did not “support a specific political goal,” but the message became clear as soon as I began to browse the images. Large, well-composed photos testified to the barbarity of the Syrian rebels, bent on slaughtering handsome Syrian soldiers and innocent civilians alike. A grim panorama showed a gymnasium supposedly used by rebels to torture prisoners. There was a heroic, sunlit portrait of a Syrian Army officer. A room hidden behind a curtain displayed gory photos of rebel-caused civilian causalities, “provided by the Syrian ministry of defense.” Then there were the pictures from the Ukrainian revolution, which focused almost exclusively on the Right Sector, a small group of violent, right-wing, anti-Russian protesters with a fondness for black balaclavas. Russian authorities have seized upon Right Sector to paint the entire revolution, backed by a huge swath of Ukrainian society, as orchestrated by neo-fascist thugs. The show’s decision to juxtapose the rebellions in Syria and Ukraine was never clearly explained, perhaps because the only connection possible was that both targeted leaders supported by Russia. On the floor in front of many of the photos sat the actual items that appeared in them, displayed under glass cases. How, exactly, did organizers procure the very same battered motorcycle helmet that a Ukrainian protester wore in a photo while brawling with riot police? Who had fronted the money to purchase a mangled white van, supposedly used by Syrian rebels in a botched suicide bombing, and transport it to New York City? Few answers were forthcoming from Benjamin Hiller, the Berlin-based German-American photojournalist who was put forth as the curator of Material Evidence. He sat at a table in the front of the gallery, a heavyset bearded man dressed entirely in black. He told me that the show had been organized by an independent collective of European, Russian and Syrian war photographers who were fed up with the one-sided view of conflicts presented by Western media. He said they simply wanted to show the “other side.” Hiller claimed that the funds to rent the space, take out the ads, transport the material and create a $40,000 grant advertised on the Material Evidence website had been raised through “crowdfunding.” (Hiller has since left the organization and says that because of the show’s “misinformations” and “nonjournalistic approach,” he “does not want to be affiliated anymore with the project.”) When I got home, I searched Twitter for signs of a campaign. Sure enough, dozens of accounts had been spamming rave reviews under the hashtag #MaterialEvidence. I clicked on one, a young woman in aviator sunglasses calling herself Zoe Foreman. (I later discovered her avatar had been stolen.) Most of her tweets were unremarkable song lyrics and inspirational quotes. But on Sept. 11 of last year, she spent hours spamming politicians and journalists about a horrific chemical plant explosion in St. Mary Parish, La. The source field on Twitter showed that the tweets Zoe Foreman — and the majority of other trolls — sent about #ColumbianChemicals were posted using a tool called Masss Post, which is associated with a nonworking page on the domain Add1.ru. According to online records, Add1​.ru was originally registered in January 2009 by Mikhail Burchik, whose email address remained connected to the domain until 2012. Documents leaked by Anonymous International listed a Mikhail Burchik as the executive director of the Internet Research Agency. Hmm. I remember the Palestine propaganda videos showing the exact same child's toy placed in multiple photographs. The use of long wrecked buildings claiming them to be "yesterday's Israeli bombing". With months & years old rust showing on rebar. It's not a surprise that the Russian Government lies almost all the time, it did under the Soviets, and it does under the iron grip of a former KGB boss. It's no surprise that the current O admin. lies. ( I'll leave speculation as to KGB direct influence vs. a lifetime of indoctrination to others. As Felony Rodham says, "At this point, what difference does it make?" And we've had multiple cases where the Obama web sites are full of professional "grass roots" posts, and millions of fake followers. Pretty much Social Media Fakery is going to be the New Normal. | ||
| Aesquire |
Grumpy, I'm still annoyed Bush didn't take the oil. Freed 50 million people from Tyranny, didn't take the oil, screwed up the reconstruction, and didn't bring any of the hundreds of poison gas shells back to D.C. to stack in the Capitol building lobby. What a jerk. Arguably every war in the 20th Century has been about oil. Although WW1 was arguably really about jealous cousins. | ||
| Hootowl |
WWII (in the pacific) was about rubber. | ||
| Aesquire |
Coal, too. | ||
| Blake |
I hope your not using me as your model for a Texan. Better would be Colin Edwards or Ben Spies or heck, George W. Bush. I can only claim being smart enough to have migrated here on my own at the age of 18 and stayed put. One of the natives put me under some kind of spell. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Royal Dutch Shell was in the middle of this one too - there are supposed huge field resources under East Ukraine, and rather than buy the land rights, and go through any environmental assessment - you can / and they have, used the war to mask their exploration and fracking. That oil was a major motivator for the war is best seen by the appointment of Hunter Biden to the Oil Derivatives board of directors - an oil hedge fund set to manipulate the market ... based on when they dump the new oil onto the supply chain. PS - Propaganda - from either side - is easy to spot. The traveling van show was in Moscow as well - I saw all the photos of it there. It was clearly ginned up as a knee jerk attention grabber. If you really good at it - you saw early that Ferguson and Baltimore were both staged, bought, paid and funded by the same monkey that has been doing color revolutions in Asia and Europe - Soros. (and the murder of Nemstov) follow the snappy placards - you will see the lie early. | ||
| Aesquire |
Basically you are saying the folk with the professional protesters bussed in with professional looking signs are paid fakes. True. The Biden/Clinton connection is no doubt detailed in Hillary's e mails. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
^^^ every time. | ||
| Alfau |
WWII (in the pacific) was about rubber. Americans see what their told. The Japanese military were told it was to bring peace and unity to the pacific regions and so they fought like bloody hell to achieve it. They didn't win though did they. American economy runs on the need for war.} | ||
| Alfau |
Luckily it runs like a buell. Not very well |
